rw-Pools, anyone ever put one in?

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    sharismom

    My foster family built a house w/ pool in Florida 10 years ago and were required to have it screened in because of alligators.

    Silly me, I always thought it was to keep it cooler.  I was shocked when we went to visit my friend that almost all of the pools down there had screens.

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     The EZ set pools are EVIL to set up, but I'm very quickly warming up tot he idea of a pool of my own and contemplating an above ground pool and a small deck. They're even fairly affordable.

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    Cait that's probably where we are headed. It's just a big difference between $30K and like $3-4K ya know? LOL.

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    sharismom

    My foster family built a house w/ pool in Florida 10 years ago and were required to have it screened in because of alligators.

     

    OMG!  All I'd have to see is one alligator in my yard and I'd be so out there like yesterday.  

    Joyce

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    It'd take more than a flimsy screen to make me feel comfortable enough to splash in a pool. Nope, not me. We don't have any of the problems with bugs that that have in Florida. I find a random bee floating in our pool now and then, but even that's rare. I'm pretty wimpy, so I wouldn't use my pool much if bugs were a problem.

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    There are actually a TON of good threads about pool costs and the different companies of both in ground and above ground pools on the forum at DockDogs.com - also helpful advice on keepng pools dog friendly. :P

     There's one company locally that does above ground pools that are partially buried, and I really like the look of those. I don't like the super-geometric shapes but I can't afford the 'faux natural spa' type pool I want so.... yeah. :P 

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    Pwca
    There's one company locally that does above ground pools that are partially buried,

    Our nieghbors had one and it was awesome.  The deck wasn't soo tall and really it looked like an inground pool with a kick butt deck.

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    You have to check with your local govt agency about building codes.  Different localities have different requirements for fences, setbacks, insurance.  Also, water quality effects operating costs. Get the ph screwed up and you can destroy a water heater in a month or two..  Check with neighbors who operate a pool about this.

    If you have kids and/or dogs, look into a safety cover .  An autocover (in ground only) can cost a lot, but it keeps kids, dogs, and neighbors out until you say yes.  It saves on water, heat, and chemicals, and good ones can be walked on.  A solar cover (looks like bubblewrap)  adds heat to the water, but no protection.  Be sure your dog can swim and knows where the steps are and how to use them. I pulled a Irish Setter out of a pool before he went under.  Not all dogs know how to swim. Be sure to have a functioning gate.  One of our customers pulled a dead terrier out of her above ground because the gate was ajar, and there was no way for the dog to get out.

    Beware of neighbors.  You may build it, but they will think "Great, now we have a pool".  And many will assume that you really want to be responsible for their kids all day.  One of our customers had her neighbors in before her pool was filled and handed out her rules before the neighbors could act.  Little things, like-when the gate is locked, the pool is off limits.  -If you are not watching, your child will not be in the pool., and -if you are not invited, don't come.  Your child will be sent home.  Granted, she is bi-polar, but she got her point across really well.  The rose bushes she had planted next to the pool did concerned me.

    Do your research before you decide to build.  There is work involved.  You can do most of it, but know about it before you start.  Salt water is a great system, but if you don't know what is going on and how to work with it, you can get the pool salty enough to make pickles. 

     The price for a pool depends on size and features you want.  We put in one for $400,000.  Nice pool .  His water got out of balance and he had to have us replace the heat exchanger after 2 years.  $1200 part, 2 hours of labor.

    From a personal perspective, above ground pools are a PITA.  Hard to keep clean, fall apart in storms, and every body thinks they know how to run and repair them.

    Pay attention to building codes.  We have a customer with a pool we just finished.  He said he had the permits and everything was okay.  Then we find out the county requires a 100 ft setback from a creek, and he is only at 60 ft.(Some of his house is too close also).  We may have to move the pool.  It is an inground unit.  I don't think our Bobcat can push it far enough.

    Find a reputable builder  who has been around a while and provides service, not just cleaning services, but repair.  Pumps wear out, heaters fail, liners leak, plumbing leaks or breaks with frost heaves, every thing has a life span.  One of our customers had a Minneapolis based builder pit her pool in-didn't even talk to my boss.  The crew drove past our shop to get to her.  She couldn't get them to provide service.  The 100 miles was to much for them.  We provide her service, but she is not really one of our high priority customers.

    Pools are neat, I've just seen too many in the last month and every one was an emergency-had to be ready for the holiday.  The party is planned and the pump wasn't really too loud last week.  And the call at 6pm Friday, just as I was  pouring the beer, got to me a little bit .

     

     

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    DougB

      And many will assume that you really want to be responsible for their kids all day. 

     

    This is so, so true.  When my pool went in my boys were 13 and 19 so this wasn't much of a problem.  A few years later, here comes DGS and pretty soon he was old enough to invite friends over.  My rules were (and still are) if your child is here swimming, you need to be here supervising.  Sending a 10 year old sibling to *watch* doesn't cut it.  That's another kid for me to be responsible for. Other rules were pretty much what they are at any public pool ... no running, no pushing each other off the diving board or the edge of the pool, no food or drinks in the pool.  There was a sign I used to see in catalogs that I often wished I had  bought.  It said "Welcome to our OOL.  Notice there is no "P" in our pool.  Please keep it that way." People bringing small kids still in diapers had to use those *lil swimmers* diapers or regular disposables. You'd be surprised at how many people think it's OK for babies to poop in the pool, but in Sacramento a couple of summers ago they had to close pools for clean-up because of fecal contamination.

    I always keep a pile of cheap pool towels from Wally folded outside because a certain percentage of people who come to swim don't think they need to bring one. If you do this, just make sure they leave the towel behind when they leave. Big Smile It's  very easy go go home wrapped up in someone elses towel and forget about it.

    Joyce

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    fuzzy_dogs_mom
    People bringing small kids still in diapers had to use those *lil swimmers* diapers or regular disposables. You'd be surprised at how many people think it's OK for babies to poop in the pool,

    Ewwww - I'm glad we don't have kids using our pool.

    I wanted to add a few things. The real estate agent who sold us our house had just had a pool put in and used pebble tec for the surface. He said he really regretted it because if you were in the pool for any length of time, your feet would really start to hurt. Had he not told us that, we'd have probably gone with it.  We also didn't go with a black bottom pool because I'd heard that they sometimes discolor and I didn't really care for the look of them anyway. We had a bunch of concrete decking done and went with the salted, colored kind. It looked great for about a year and then the dark adobe color started to fade and look pink and DH hated it. He acid stained it last year and it looks great now but I wish we'd known more in the beginning.

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    sharismom

    My foster family built a house w/ pool in Florida 10 years ago and were required to have it screened in because of alligators.

     

    OMG!  All I'd have to see is one alligator in my yard and I'd be so out there like yesterday.  

    Joyce

    All sorts of critters love inviting themselves in FL pools.  When I was a kid one day a water moccasin decided to join me and my cousin while we were swimming in an unscreened pool.
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    DougB

    Beware of neighbors.  You may build it, but they will think "Great, now we have a pool".  And many will assume that you really want to be responsible for their kids all day.  One of our customers had her neighbors in before her pool was filled and handed out her rules before the neighbors could act.  Little things, like-when the gate is locked, the pool is off limits.  -If you are not watching, your child will not be in the pool., and -if you are not invited, don't come.  Your child will be sent home.  Granted, she is bi-polar, but she got her point across really well.  The rose bushes she had planted next to the pool did concerned me.


    When I was a kid we swam in a pool owned by an elderly couple.  They had consulted a lawyer and also had very strict (but appropriate) rules.  We were not allowed inside the fence without at least one adult and everyone had to be signed in and signed out (they had a book in the garage).  The rules were designed so that people could use the pool without them having to constantly police everyone for fear of being liable if something happened.

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    I am not getting the neighborhood kids thing really. I mean our pool is in our BACK YARD...with a 6' wooden FENCE all around said yard. People do not just enter my yard NOW..and if anyone, child OR adult did so that is a CRIME...it is called "tresspassing" and I would leave it to the police to explain why you do not enter people's yard without permisson. So I don't see how that would ever be an issue. My kids are taught what private property is, and they do not even walk on other people's GRASS unless the street is dangerous...so I guess I do not get that LOL.

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     You are a responsible adult.  You take your duties as a parent seriously.  You teach your kids and dogs how to behave and expect proper behavior.  Most people are, but, as can be seen at most schools or malls, there are a lot of absentee parents in the world.  As responsible adults, we know it's a lot easier to prevent bad behavior than to repair the results of bad behavior.

    It only takes a few problem kids to cause a bad day.

    We put in a pool at a college apartment complex .  Outdoors, 6 ft fence with locked gates, flood lights, signs, and a camera.  3 young adults decided to party after hours and climbed the fence.  They couldn't open the autocover with the control switch, so they opened the cover with a knife.  When the police delivered them to the apartment managers, they received a $3000 bill for damages.  One boy wanted a copy of the security video for personal use. I figured that his dad would get the bill.

    You can't cure stupid.

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    I am home days...and I know my neighbors. If ANYONE, neighbor or not, child or not...EVER attempted to breach my fence for ANY REASON they are committing a crime and will find themselves in the back of a police cruiser before they could say "My Aunt Sally"...period. Homey, in a word, don't play that.