Coming Soon? Clone Your Dog!!

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    Coming Soon? Clone Your Dog!!

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080425090123.8r20ja8x&show_article=1

      It seems they have bred two clones Afghan hounds and that they are expecting puppies to be born soon.

     

     Although I love my dogs and there is a part of me that thinks it would be great to clone them and always have one with me, the large part of me is put off by this, it is kind of scary that we are so close to being able to manipulate nature in this fashion.

     And they are also cloning "sniffer" dogs according to this report.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080421052757.dgssq5sl&show_article=1

     

    added: I also found this article, so it looks like we are already moving in that direction.

    http://www.csindy.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A24581

    "A Korean company said it received the world's first commercial order to clone a pet dog. A California woman is paying RNL Bio $150,000 to re-create her dead pit bull terrier, Booger, from some ear tissue she had refrigerated. "It seems that she had a disability, and her dog helped her cope with the problem, so she was eager to get a clone of Booger," the company's chief executive, Ra Jeong-chan, told the Korea Times. He added that if orders follow from Westerners willing to clone their pets at that price, "the cost of cloning a dog may come down to less than $50,000." "

     

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    the price will come down from 150,000 to 50,000?? O goody!!! 

     

    i wonder if they give discounts on bulk orders.... i'd like at least fifteen Kaydees .... nice to have a spare you know in case something happens to the other....  

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     Is a $150 000 dog still disposable?  Sigh..

    The scientific part of me thinks this would be neat.  Specifically from a training aspect of it.  If there were 5 different Crusher's out there, all trained 5 different ways, with different methods and tools, which on would work the best?  Or from a nutritional standpoint.  What foods would he do the best on?  How drastically could his energy level change from one enviroment to another?  How would his temperment change in different settings?

    But the emotional side of me doesn't like the idea of it at all.  I can't imagine "Replacing" Crusher when he is gone?  I'll have other dogs for sure, but how would Crusher be special to me if I had the ability to just get a new one when this one wears out?

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    This is just wrong.

    The second generation of cloned animals used to be malformed but we have not found any abnormal aspects about the foetuses so far," he said.

    So, I guess it is okay to clone and keep cloning even though you know you are creating malformed animals which may die after birth, or suffer and then be euthanized while still young??? Lovely ethics there.

    Puppy mills that keep dogs in filthy, terrible conditions are universally demonized---how can anyone support researchers who knowingly create puppies that will be malformed and die? How sick is that? At least the puppy millers aren't deliberately creating puppies with birth defects.

     

    • Bronze

    I wouldn't want to clone my dog, although it would be the same, i just dont think it would feel right knowing its not the original dog, you know?

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    Why am I not surprised that the woman doing this is from CA? Tongue Tied At least it sounds like she has a good reason for wanting to do it and if she has that kind of money and nothing better to do with it, why not?  Personally, I think I'd have better things to do with $150K, but that's just me.

    Joyce

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    fuzzy_dogs_mom

    Why am I not surprised that the woman doing this is from CA? Tongue Tied At least it sounds like she has a good reason for wanting to do it and if she has that kind of money and nothing better to do with it, why not?  Personally, I think I'd have better things to do with $150K, but that's just me.

    Joyce

     

     

    you can buy a lot of ice cream with $150k......

    if i was disabled and missed my service dog.. gee i think i would just get another one and donate a huge sum to the people that train service dogs... help myself AND help others because i just LOVE that selfish feeling i get when i do someone a good turn Devil 

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    I like the idea of cloning but I wonder if they know that even tho its a clone it will never be exactly like the original? If you want to clone a dog why not do it to some super champion show dog who has near perfect confirmation? Thast like how they clone racing mules, I dont see what the point is in cloning an animal you wont be able to breed it. I know a few champion gelding horses are cloned only so their clones can be bred and pass on their DNA when the original cannot. Atleast I think thats how it works. o.0
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    Kyda
    I like the idea of cloning but I wonder if they know that even tho its a clone it will never be exactly like the original?

    Really?  I didn't know that.  I always thought that the whole purpose of cloning anything was to get an exact replica of the original whatever.

    Joyce

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    cloning, to me, serves no purpose..... its another way for our world to become more  prepackaged-just-add-water-and-cookie-cutter shaped.

    where is the thrill and excitement of CHANCE??? are people that scared and lazy to try to start over with a blank canvas and create something different? 

    i can understand why many people cant find it possible to own more than one dog of the same breed because it would sadden them and constantly remind them of THAT particular dog. is a clone any different? they can make exact duplicates of the physical matter, but can they duplicate the memories? personality? ability?

    i'm of a mind that if you could make a person go through the same situation over and over each time they will react differently..... even just a LITTLE... its all according to mood and emotion. but the only way to test that would be to clone someone, right?

    Cloning scares people because there is that goofy fear that someone will clone hitler.... so what? clone the b*stard! it wont mean he'll become a world dominating tyrant again! just means there will be some guy walking around that has his exact DNA and physical features. will he have to be put through the same life trials as hitler in order to BE hitler? will we have to go through another world war in order for him to "snap" and start his climb to the top?

    now thats really really heavy stuff compared to cloning a dog but its not too different. the physical form and DNA is all there but you WONT have your baby back. you'll still be stuck with the memories of the old one. For example: the original Bruno might have liked eating ice cubes, playing in the sprinkler with the kids, and fetching your news paper for you... but will Bruno 2.0 do all of that? $150,000 is a helluva price to pay for a walking photograph of your old dog in my opinion. 

    • Bronze

    In the land of people screaming we should have mandatory spay/neuter laws (I'm not one of them), we somehow think this is maybe ok.  I say spend $1000 on a new dog and some stuff for it and then spend the other $149,000 helping to spay and neuter pets for the people who can't afford it.  One of the cat rescues gets spays and neuters for like $10, think how many that would do!!!  I don't see the point in it, our dogs are our dogs through the genetics, yes, but also through the experiences and time we've spent with them.   I would think the clone would be a huge disappointment and nothing but a reminder of the great pet you had....it's unfair expectation for the clone.  Cloned cats aren't even the same color as the original.  Really, why bother? 

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    fuzzy_dogs_mom

    Kyda
    I like the idea of cloning but I wonder if they know that even tho its a clone it will never be exactly like the original?

    Really?  I didn't know that.  I always thought that the whole purpose of cloning anything was to get an exact replica of the original whatever.

    Joyce

    From what i have read and see on movies at school a clone will be physically the same but their personality will be different then the original, like twins sorta. heh
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    Kyda
    a clone will be physically the same but their personality will be different then the original

    right - because you can't clone training and memories. Makes sence the way I'm thinking of it at least!

    I think it's a horrible, horrible idea -and I wish people would just leave things the way they are.

    I love my dog to pieces - but would I want another dog, just like him? NO! I guess I just don't see the point in it.....