Support The USMC against Berkeley

cc431

OK, I'll rephrase:  It would be my opinion the students of Berkeley are lacking in the mental capacity to think of this stuff of their own and probably get help from groups with a terroristic style approach like Code Pink.  The lack of mental capacity may come from the excessive use of drugs in the smokable form.

 

I'm sorry, I have to laugh. Do you know how many students attend UC Berkeley? Hint: a lot. Most of them are not liberal, or using drugs. They are very smart and ambitious people.

You are confusing the city of Berkeley with the university. Yes, there are students at Cal who protest and advocate for far left policies. But they are a minority. In my opinion, you have no clue whatsoever what you are talking about. Having spent a good deal of time on campus, and knowing a large number of people who have graduated from Cal .... I think I know a little more about "the students of Berkeley" in general.

And it is also my opinion that Code Pink is nothing like a "terrorist" group. The T word. Its the new black, an easy way to shut down dissenting opinion.  I think it is highly inflammatory for you to make that charge. Perhaps you should tip off Homeland Security, so they can detain the terrorists. I'm sure a domestic terrorism group would be shut down, especially one as visible as Code Pink.

- Once again, the disclaimer: I think the City Council's actions are silly. I don't support them. I think any and all acts of vandalism or violence are wrong. I am not a member of Code Pink, or any other leftist organization. I did not obtain a degree from UCB, I don't smoke marijuana, crack cocaine, nicotine, or cloves. My mental abilities have declined with age. -

Dog_ma

- Once again, the disclaimer: I think the City Council's actions are silly. I don't support them. I think any and all acts of vandalism or violence are wrong. I am not a member of Code Pink, or any other leftist organization. I did not obtain a degree from UCB, I don't smoke marijuana, crack cocaine, nicotine, or cloves. My mental abilities have declined with age. -

Ditto for me!!

Dog_ma

My mental abilities have declined with age. -

While I have some abilities that have declined with age, my mental ability is not one of them.  I have always been stupid.  That is good because, unlike some of those "declined" abilities we spoke of, I don't know what I am missing.

Dog_ma

I'm sorry, I have to laugh. Do you know how many students attend UC Berkeley? Hint: a lot. Most of them are not liberal, or using drugs. They are very smart and ambitious people.

 I would agree that most of the students are not radical liberal's and the majority of what is (IMO) negative press coming out of the university and the city would be from the leaders and not the students or the citizens. As a matter of fact they have a conservative group of students at Berkeley although I do not know what the ratio is.

Dog_ma

And it is also my opinion that Code Pink is nothing like a "terrorist" group. The T word. Its the new black, an easy way to shut down dissenting opinion. 

 Depends on the definition of terrorist. if you define it as "An agent of a sub-national group who uses premeditated, politically motivated violence against non-combatant targets" then they would not be terrorists. I cannot find any references to violence on the net.

I did find some things on the net that would cause me to be unable to support them in any way.

The leader openly spoke out and supported Al Queda insurgents in Iraq

They have called our soldiers terrorists

They have given money to the other side

 I have not had time to research these findings so I cannot attest to the validity of the accusations, but from what I know now I would label most of them anti war protestors with perhaps a few in leadership being radical and extreme in their views and actions.

Dog_ma

- Once again, the disclaimer: I think the City Council's actions are silly. I don't support them. I think any and all acts of vandalism or violence are wrong. I am not a member of Code Pink, or any other leftist organization. I did not obtain a degree from UCB, I don't smoke marijuana, crack cocaine, nicotine, or cloves. My mental abilities have declined with age. -

 Ditto that, especially the declining mental abilities part, and the declining eyesight as well as other declining things that I can not mention on the forumn. It is amazing how everything "declines" with age.

Things like this make me regret not teaching Jack to lift his leg on command: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andydr/14857619/

Good for the feds for "urging" Berkley to see the light.  I love the attitude though--when protesters are out doing their thing they are only exercising their right to free speech, but when the Marines dare to exercise that right (even though they are the ones who protect it), well, they are just unwelcome intruders.  Because you know, people can't be trusted to make the decision to join the military on their own, they need the mighty city of Berkley to protect them....

Thank God I went to Purdue....... 

Dog_ma

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... And it is also my opinion that Code Pink is nothing like a "terrorist" group. The T word. Its the new black, an easy way to shut down dissenting opinion.  I think it is highly inflammatory for you to make that charge. Perhaps you should tip off Homeland Security, so they can detain the terrorists. I'm sure a domestic terrorism group would be shut down, especially one as visible as Code Pink. ...

I wonder why Canada barred their entry last year (Code Pink leaders)?

CC.

Guys, this whole thing is about a couple of parking spaces that have been reassigned for a few hours a week.  Lordy - talk about making mountains out of molehills.

Joyce

fuzzy_dogs_mom

Guys, this whole thing is about a couple of parking spaces that have been reassigned for a few hours a week.  Lordy - talk about making mountains out of molehills.

I guess for me it is about the fact that a city goverment went out of their way to make it easy for this group to protest against the USMC. CodePink has been very outspoken in naming our soldiers as terrorists. I have a son that will soon be over in Iraq. He is going because he loves the US and has always wanted to serve in the military. He is not a terrorist. Perhaps it is a simple molehill to you, to me it is an insult to every person who serves, who has served, who will serve and more important it is an insult to those who have given life and limb while serving in the US military.

 We are very protected, here in the US and we take much for granted, and never have to worry about being invaded nor about having our streets and cities filled with enemy soldiers, one day that may change and I wonder how many citizens will spit upon the military if and when that day ever comes. How many will protest their presence within their cities?

fuzzy_dogs_mom

Guys, this whole thing is about a couple of parking spaces that have been reassigned for a few hours a week.  Lordy - talk about making mountains out of molehills.

Joyce

My city council has decided to give a radical pro-life group the parking spaces directly in front of our abortion clinic's doors twice a week for 5 hours because the council believes that abortion is murder. They have also sent a letter to the owners of the clinic saying that the clinic is unwanted in my city. Is that okay?

Yes, let's all stay civil here :) but the fact that a group of people on a city council would use their positions to advance an agenda based on their personal beliefs is distressing, isn't it? Because that is what I see here---people who want to give a controversial protest group an advantage that they don't give other protest groups.

Just my two cents...

I have no problem with anybody making it easier for any group to protest anything.  I have no problem with radical pro-lifers protesting in front of abortion clinics as long as they aren't bombing the clinics, resorting to any type of violence or putting their hands on anybody entering the clinic.  That's just a demonstration of freedom of speech.

Joyce

polarexpress

My city council has decided to give a radical pro-life group the parking spaces directly in front of our abortion clinic's doors twice a week for 5 hours because the council believes that abortion is murder. They have also sent a letter to the owners of the clinic saying that the clinic is unwanted in my city. Is that okay?

 Speaking as someone who is very pro life. No that is not okay! It is okay for citizns who either oppose or agree with abortion to protest but all of them need to find their own parking places and the goverment should not hinder or assist any one paticular group in their efforts to protest!

Why are people saying this is about free speech? It is NOT a matter of free speech. Their free speech was never infringed upon.

The right of these people to speak their beliefs was never being being stomped down or not supported.

They always had the right to say whatever they wanted, and were not being stopped by the Marines. 

The issue is that this is a government who is giving assistance to special interest groups - which edges on (nay, is) government favoritism and poor local democracy.