Ear gluing/taping

• Laurelin_429 Posted : 3/7/2007 2:24:33 PM What a cute boy he is!  I'm sure his ears will come out beautifully.    I told my friends (non dog people) about taping Trey's ears to cause them to break where we wanted them to, and they looked at me like I was insane and horrible.  Oh well.... 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• denise m Posted : 3/7/2007 2:30:50 PM Sorry, still a little confused. Do you glue/tape the ears at 'show time' to have the ears appear like they fit the standard or do you glue/tape in order to train the ears to stand properly on their own - like dental braces? 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• Laurelin_429 Posted : 3/7/2007 2:33:20 PM Like dental braces.  It's usually kept on for as long as it is needed for the ears to stand that way on their own.  Trey had his taped for the most part until he was about 8 months old.  0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• denise m Posted : 3/7/2007 3:40:40 PM Thanks, wasn't sure if it was like wearing braces or a girdle. LOL 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• rwbeagles Posted : 3/7/2007 3:54:36 PM And just to put this out there...AKC's stance on altering a dogs appearance...would encompass the ear taping, etc. It's just one of those thing people do anyways...like hairspray and foreign substances etc. [] 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• timsdat Posted : 3/7/2007 6:51:30 PM Ear bracing and glueing are not in violation of the AKC policy.  If it were just all shelties would DQ.  All show prospects are glued just in case.   0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• rwbeagles Posted : 3/7/2007 7:11:19 PM The judge, not seeing the dog since puppyhood like you have does not "know" you altered the dog prior to it's appearing before them, they cannot prove it, only suspect. Unless you are gluing right as the judge watches, or the glue is on and the judge feels it...they'd have no cause to DQ.   The breeder/exhibitor..."does" know...that a procedure was used to alter an otherwise undesireable characteristic...and the ear carriage was fundamentally changed by artificial means. Their choosing to exhibit the dog after that....well....let's just leave that alone lol.   I wouldn't be comfy with that...so I have a breed that doesn't require that sort of thing.   Italics are my comments: [size=3]  [font="microsoft sans serif"]"5. Any procedure to change ear set or carriage other than that permitted by the breed standard" (is taping/gluing in the standard the way cropping is in some?)   "A dog is considered changed in appearance by artificial means if it has been subjected to any type of procedure that has the effect of obscuring, disguising or eliminating any congenital or hereditary abnormality or any undesirable characteristic," (I'd say prick ears are pretty undesireable...and also congenital and heriditary as well? and isn't taping done to eliminate or disguise the prick ear?) [/size][/font] 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• pugs2 Posted : 3/7/2007 7:22:38 PM Pug breeders tape ears too, many puppy while teething have fly away ears. We tape to keep them from folding. Even at ring side, you will see the younger Pugs in crates with ear tape on, everyone, including the judges, see them this way, so it is not a problem with AKC to tape the ears. Cropping is so different, you really can't compare the two.  0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• rwbeagles Posted : 3/7/2007 7:26:04 PM My last input on this is...gluing taping doesn't hurt the dog...and from that aspect...it is harmless. Such things are not usually the province of the pet owner...but should they want to do it...they should get knowledge and do so safely.   Show folks...an interesting issue. As with anything, the rules are open to interpretation...and one's stance and the stake one might have in a breed, will often color that interpretation. Many of those "do not exhibit dogs who..." type of rules...are truly unenforceable (who's going to know your dog special had an inguinal hernia repair as  apup anyhow??)....that's AKC's bad, IMO.   Whoever said health issues should overrule a simple thing like taping ears is definitely right...there are worse things.   Just one person's opinion...and hopefully I'll be allowed to have it, lol. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• timsdat Posted : 3/7/2007 7:27:36 PM Prick or hounding of the ears are not considered an congenital or heriditary defect.  Whether or not the ears prick is really dependent of the thickness of the ear leather.  0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• rwbeagles Posted : 3/7/2007 7:29:59 PM so it is not a problem with AKC     Okay so one last thing...lmao...   Perhaps it's not that it isn't a problem...but it's that it's such a rampant...unenforceable thing, that it really would take more trouble to address then simply allowing the rule to be broken. You know kinda like a KC's blurb in the premium, "exhibitors must  pick up after their dogs"...lol!   That happens often with rules in all facets of life....otherwise cops would be busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest! 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• pugs2 Posted : 3/7/2007 7:33:56 PM Taping ears I agree is not hiding a defect or hereditary flaw, it is only making for a more  apealing look to the Pugs facial appearance. I have had a couple pet buyers asking me how to tape the puppies ears. Not necessary for a pet, just a personal preference. Not every Pugs needs the taping, only some of them, it is no bother to them at all. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• rwbeagles Posted : 3/7/2007 7:43:20 PM Earset, carriage, thickness, length...is not heritable?   Really...that is interesting.   Just out of curiosity tho, why do both, not address the part about 'undesireable chracteristic'? Take away the congenital and hereditary both...and there's still undesireable...hmm...   I'd be interested in hearing more about the causes of a bad ear and earset....besides genes...I will start a thread in Breeding so this can stay on topic...if anyone has other ideas they can join in... 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login