Lab and Pot Bellied Pig

    • Gold Top Dog

    Lab and Pot Bellied Pig

    Hello folks,
     
    My boyfriend and I are thinking of getting a minitaure pot-bellied pig.  We've wanted one for about 2 years now but our appartment wouldn't allow one.  (wanted to get a male and name him Frankie P. [:);)

    We just bought a house though and were hoping to buy one.  What I am wondering is if it would be okay to have a pig in the house with our black lab.  Dozer (Lab) will be about 1 year old when we move into the house and we would be getting the piglet shortly after that.
     
    Dozer is good with cats and other dogs but I am wondering if the prey drive would be higher with a pig.
     
    Obviously I don't want to get a piggy if my dog is just going to try and eat it.
     
    What do you guys think?
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    Can you try them out together? I've seen large-ish dogs and pot-bellied pigs that got along beautifully together. But I've also seen an owner who had to relocate the pig because the dog's agressive behavior towards it was unmanageable. How high is his prey drive normally?

    Edit: prey drive with larger, pig-sized sorts of animals. Like maybe other dogs, or rabbits, or goats or something?
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    He's good with little things,  I used to have a Guinea pig who passed away recently (old age). Which Dozer liked,  at worst he would just push the Guinea pig around his his nose.  He's okay with Rabbits too.
     
    He's good with other dogs although he loves to play rough with them (mouth and roll around and stuff).  We let Dozer play with a calf once before and he would just kind of nudge it with his nose to get it to run (awkwardly) after him then run away.
     
    I don't really want him playing rough with the pig though but I am sure that with supervison I could avoid that.
    • Silver
    Just introduce him to the pig like a dog. and keep them surpervised espeacially when the pig is a baby. But the real question would be are you ready for a very muddy dog and pig in the house? pigs neet mud to root in and lay in the need a mud area in the yard for them. My friends mum was going to get one, but she decided against it (until she moves to a farm) becuase the bacyard would be a mud pit.
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    Actually pigs don't NEED the mud.  They use the mud to keep cool in the sun, however, our piggy would be an inside pig so he wouldn't need a mud pit to lay in.  Generally pigs are only dirty because of that.
     
    Yes, pigs love to dig and we're ready for that, we have a spot all fenced off for the piggy to dig to his hearts content.  You can usually train them like a dog not to root in the house.
     
    When I was a kid my mom and dad used to have a little pot-bellied pig who was pretty much like a dog (it would go for walks and such, it even had it's own little doggy bed [:)]).  It wasn't really a dirty animal...one time I remember it got into the white paint we were going to paint the basement with that was a HUGE mess [8D].
     
    So no, I'm not really concerned about the mess.
    • Silver
    i didnt mean to sound like I meant they were dirty animals. that is a old wives tail. they do need mud to protect their skin, but I guess if it is a house pet that is a differnt story. I just meant they will root out in the garden and yard and will create a messy yard. Offcourse they can be trained just like a dog. pigs are very smart animals. I just meant instincts will kick in and there will be a messy dog and pig waiting at the back door to be let in lol
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    I would also worry about how the pig will be.  In my expierance pigs can be quite teh agressive animal, very territorial over their space on occasion.
    Our pig on the farm got along just fine with the dog though.
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    Just came back from visiting a friend w/ a Chow Chow & a pot-bellied pig. They get along very well. I never knew pigs were so trainable! I'll ask her if there's anything special she did in the beginning to "introduce" each other though.
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    I'd consider this VERY carefully- nots o much because dogs and pigs *can't* coexist, but just because frankly, potbellys are NOT terribly good pets for the vast majority of people and many, many, many of them end up being dumped when they reach full size. They're only miniature in the sense that they don't usually get over 150 pounds or so, compared to 400+ pounds for 'standard' pig breeds- yes, there are breeders who are working to develop smaller ones, and there are PLENTY of breeders who will claim to have smaller ones, but most are NOT small animals. Do you have a vet lined up who can handle all the care you'll need (trimming teeth, hooves, spay/neuter, shots, etc?)- most vets who see small animals (ie, pets) *don't* see potbellied pigs unless they see exotics, and most livestock vets (who *do* have experience with swine in general) may or may not suit your needs, as some of them have much better 'people skills' than others when it comes to saving an animal that has no economic purpose- they're focused on farming, which means you need to at least TRY to break even, and sometimes that means humanely destroying animals rather than treating them.

    Pigs *are* trainable, but are NOT dogs, and there's a definate learning curve. They can be VERY destructive to your yard and in the house, and while they're not dirty per se with mud or anything, they *can* be a problem just because of their size.
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    I'm going to add MY 'be VERY careful' to this.
     
    We had a really BAD experience - a friend of mine had a pot-bellied pig and did dog rescue.  We had her dog-sit for us once ... ONCE.  Pigs are VERY dominant -- and once they get their full size (they just don't stay small -- this particular one was about 225 pounds) -- and it was HER way or the highway!! 
     
    At one time Socks was trying to stand back and not get 'into' it with Charlotte (the pig -- a mixed EB White metaphor ...this PIG was Charlotte) and Charlotte simply trapped Ms.Socks between herself and the wall and PUSHED and then she turned around and BIT Socks. 
     
    yes, they are extremely smart -- but they tend to be best as only pets -- not in conjunction with others simply because they tend to get so dominant. 
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    Oh yeah, I forgot to add... my friend's pig "humps" my friend's dog time to time. So... I knwo Stanley would certainly have a prob w/ that!
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    Thanks for the replies, first to [link>http://forum.dog.com/asp/showProfile.asp?memid=22367]Pwca[/link]
     
    Yes, I do know the size of most pot-bellied pigs.  Generally they will get to be about 150lbs, I'm aware of that and am prepared for it.
     
    Yes, I have a vet set up who actually specialises in Pot-Bellies.  I would NEVER have gotten a livestock vet since Pot-Bellies are much different than your average farm pig with respect to their bodies.  There are anestetics(sp?) used on the livestock pigs which would kill a Pot-Belly.
     
    Second to [link>http://forum.dog.com/asp/showProfile.asp?memid=2536]calliecritturs[/link]
     
    I will keep that in mind. 
     
    From what I've been hearing some pigs are good with other animals and some are not so good.  When I spoke to my vet about this he did mention that the Pot-Bellies can be extremely territorial, but he also said that it is usually only a problem when the other animal is introduced to the pig after the pig has already settled in.  He said that usually when the pig is introduced into a family that already has the animal the pig learns to see that animal as part of it's family rather than an outsider.
     
    Finally to [link>http://forum.dog.com/asp/showProfile.asp?memid=18319]stanleysmom[/link]

    lol, that's hillarious.
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    I was excited to get to know 'Charlotte' -- and I was flabbergasted at her behavior.  The owner was quite the trainer but was adamant that they were simply more dominant (all the same female/female, dominant male/dominant male stuff applies pig/dog as with two dogs), but she also implied it tends to get more aggravated with age (because a pig gets so much larger as it ages, where a dog may become weaker with advanced age).
     
    I'd actually strongly considered getting one til I got my 'education' on this.  I don't mind a territorial animal -- but territorial with the element of sheer size/weight to 'push' it's issue was a really unpleasant side effect.  She literally had a 'do what I want or I'll HURT you" attitude. 
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    Make sure you do your research well when buying a pbp.  I have a friend who bought one years ago when they were first "new" to the housepet scene.  They ended up with a huge "normal" sow that thought it was a couch pig.   When the pig kept growing they talked to the breeder who said well it must just be the bigger of the litter.  I think the sow ended up weighing in at just under 300lbs!