Poor dog....

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    Poor dog....

    So I just got back from a trip to petsmart to pick up a toy for Maggie's "Secret Santa" buddy (the rescue I work with does SS for the dogs rather than the people lol) and what was going to be a nice outing left me feeling very sorry for a dog I saw while I was browsing.

    I was walking into the store and noticed a yellow lab standing just inside the doors. I didn't think much of it, but did notice that she got a heavy correction on a choke chain when she leaned toward Maggie. Ah well not something I don't see every day, so I continued in.

    A few mins later, while Maggie and I were in the toy aisle I hear a heavy choke chain correction to my left. I turn, and sure enough, it's the big lab, this time being harshly corrected for forging 3 inches out of heel position. The woman handling her circles into the dog, effectively shoving the lab into position and yells "no" at the dog. The dog sits, one paw raised, panting heavily.

    I soon realize that Maggie and I are being used as a training distraction for this dog, so I move Mags into a down close to me to ease the dog's challenge and keep her from getting in the way. The woman approaches, jerking on the collar and yelling at the dog everytime she steps out of heel (she wanted to say hi to Maggie - def not aggressive). Maggie and I are both a little uncomfortable at this point, but then I notice something - the woman handling the dog is someone I know from my therapy dog group (!) and she's not the owner of the dog, the owners are actually standing about 20 feet away and are an older couple.

    By now the "trainer" is at the end of the aisle. I release Mags and re"sit" her away from me, and loosen her lead so it's lying on the ground while I return to browsing. The woman of the couple who own the lab stops and comments on how well behaved my dog is. [:D] To which I promptly answer: "Thanks! She's a therapy dog and does agility. All thanks to the power of clicker training". I would've offered her a business card and mentioned that I was concerned about her dog, but the "trainer" was only about 15 feet away and since I knew her I didn't want to create problems down the line. [&o]

    The couple headed back to the "trainer" and I left the aisle shortly after. At checkout I mentioned what I had seen to the checkout person and she said that she'd have someone talk to them. Hopefully they mention something about the methods being used on the dog and my reference to clicker training is remembered.

    I felt soooooooo bad for that dog - no living being should have to be put through that much stress in the name of training!! The poor dog was throwing calming signals like crazy every time I looked at her. [:o]
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    Awwwwwwwwww that poor puppers!!  [sm=rolleyes.gif]
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    Oh man, that's really sad to hear.  My concern would be that they only see that your dog was much better trained, and think they need to up their training (if you could even call it that).  Hopefully the clicker training "clicked" though and they'll look into that.
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    Bummer.  I hate to see that kind of thing, especially with someone you kinda know.  That wasn't here in Bloomington was it?

    I was in Petsmart here in town a couple weeks ago and saw a young woman with an Aussie that looked very nervous about everything.  She was trying to get her attention and by some of what she was saying and the body language of the dog, I could tell the dog was just very nervous about people and scary situations.  So I asked her if she needed a person to help socialize her dog.  She eagerly said yes, so I turned to the side, crouched down and let the Aussie come to me.  She came up to me, sniffed my hand and let me pet her.  The woman was impressed that she let me.  We talked a bit and I recommended the training classes at Petsmart as I know the trainer and have faith in her abilities.  It was so rewarding to help even in a small way.

    There was another time I was walking on Clear Creek trail and saw someone with two mini schnauzers both on prongs, and one of them doing the reactive leash thing.  The guy was yanking on the prong and lifting the dog up off it's front feet. [:o]  I felt so bad for the dog...  I seriously want to get a Fiesty Fido class going here in Bloomington....  this town needs it!!!!!
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    It always irks me to see this just as much as when a "trainer" does nothing.  I use a choke but I would  NEVER yank on a dog just to show I was in control.  I correct with a short pop, NOT a YANK and DRAG. This person has some serious "in charge" issues.
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    I used to see someone like that walking a dog in the park here.  The poor dog was on a leash rolled to about 6" and the person used to keep jerking him up by the leash yelling "heel, heel" every  10 seconds. I don't think the poor dog had a clue what she expected of him and I think he was probably the only dog on the planet that  hated to see that leash come out and know it was time for a walk.
     
    Joyce
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    I also use a choke collar ... but not like that.  A problem with choke collars is that people put them on the wrong way.  The collar gets tigther and tighter on their dog, even after the correction.  
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    Leslie, this was in Lafayette, not Bton - if it was in Bton I might've been tempted to call AC or something, here AC doesn't even exist in the city of Lafayette yet. [>:]

    I personally don't use slip collars on my dogs because I've seen the fallout first hand from just normal corrections on the collar (Maggie is very soft), but I don't think they are evil/abusive in and of themselves - they can be quite sucessful in good hands, obviously that wasn't the case here. [:'(] I checked out the woman's website and she actually went thru a dog training school! I wonder if she figured out this abusive technique on her own or actually paid money to learn it. [&:]
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    Poor dog, indeed. [:(][:'(][:@]