Pet store puppy

I would go to a shelter before anything. The sad thing is Pups are being sold in a pet store and if they do not get bought there, where do they end up? It's not the dogs fault.
 
I know people are trying to help, but every time someone post about their dog they bought at a BYB or puppy store, I feel that people snub them. I think it's wrong because you have to realize they knew no better. I am all for educating people on what is right and wrong, but there are no signs in front of pet stores telling you what you are doing is wrong.  I know alot of people that would come to this site and think half of the people here are carzy obsessed. They look at their dog as a dog and that is it, a pet.  People are not educated enough. And it doesn't just go with dogs. I have neighbors that breed rabbits just because they want to. It drives me nutts, but that is their business. They have about 20 or more rabbits that run free in their yard. I have another set of neighbors that have barn cats that breed every year. The kittens die 95% of the time because the parents are sickly and over bred. The humane society don't care because they are over run with cats.  Why would people go to the Humane society and pay $100 for a cat when they can get a free one on every corner? I'm not saying its right, it's just a fact. I do not know too many people that care about some of these issues. It is only in coming here that I haved learnt anything. But it is all on how you do it. When I first came here I was treated like poop. I knew no better and was trying to get help. Then I stuck around to learn more things, I still got treated like crap now and then, and I don't know why I still stick around. Mainly because I have learnt so much that once I get out of this place I hope to run my own rescue. So I want to learn everything I can. pick up every tip I can.
 
All I'm saying is try to just be nice about it.

I thought everyone was extremely nice about this...

>>All I'm saying is try to just be nice about it. <<
 
Maybe I need to read through this thread again.  The OP probably paid $1500 for a mutt, but I don't see anyone being nasty about it.  []

No I'm not saying that they are being nasty. I was saying something before people get mean. I have read some threads that do get mean. And I just think that instead of being rude, because this person bought from a puppy store, we could forget the fact he did and just try to help.

I disagree. We need to shout from the rooftops at every opportunity: don't buy puppies from petstores. Don't buy anything from petstores that sell puppies.
 
One person's feelings are kind of insignificant compared to the thousands of dogs who live horrible lives in puppy mills.
 

The sad thing is Pups are being sold in a pet store and if they do not get bought there, where do they end up?

You rescue that one sad puppy, you have doomed numerous other dogs. I suspect un-purchased pet store puppies end up in the shelters, where you can get them for much cheaper, AND without supporting puppy mills.

ORIGINAL: angeltrudelle

No I'm not saying that they are being nasty. I was saying something before people get mean. I have read some threads that do get mean. And I just think that instead of being rude, because this person bought from a puppy store, we could forget the fact he did and just try to help.

The only way that people are going to know about the dangers of pet stores and BYBs is if they are told.  Nobody is being rude, nasty, mean, etc.  When a person buys from a pet store they are supporting a cruel industry that churns out pups like product.  They should be informed of this--knowledge is power.

ORIGINAL: angeltrudelle


If I had the money I tell ya right now I would buy a dog from a pet store to save its poor life.

 
There is a problem with that theory though, Angel.  It feeds the demand. 
 
Pet stores that sell puppies, or the breeders who provide puppies to pet stores, don't care what your motivation is for buying the puppies they sell.  You want to "rescue" this cute doggie by paying my inflated price?  Cool, here's three more to take its place.  Want to "rescue" them too?
 
And the cycle continues.
 
The best thing we can do, IMHO, is to try to educate people and to buy NOTHING from pet stores that sell puppies.

I didn't think anyone was being nasty, rude, or condescending. I thought everyone was simply educating the OP as to what puppy mills/pet stores are and the problems that her pup may have. I think everyone was being polite, knowledgable and helpful.
 
I think the best thing she can do now is watch the dog very carefully, get it to a vet ASAP and have a thorough exam done, and just raise and train it properly, hoping for the best. I hope that if anything, the OP has learned something and will never buy from a petstore again. I also hope, that should this pup end up developing problems, that the OP continues her research and learning and doesn't just give up on the dog. That's what happens sometimes when you buy from a petstore. The dog ends up with medical or behavioral problems, the owner ends up taking it to a shelter.

I hear you, angeltrudelle. I think a lot of companion animal groups tend to be overzealous. I'm part of a companion rabbit group as well, and they can sound like complete over the top loonies at times. It almost drove me off to begin with, but I've since seen them act a whole lot more normal and helpful and have come to forgive their moments of intense passion. As someone who loves snakes and wild birds and honey bees as much as I love dogs and rabbits, it is sometimes difficult to comprehend the intense species passion I see displayed by people who love their dogs or rabbits or whatever other species they've chosen as a companion. I can only speak for myself, but I think that passion is often misdirected and can be downright intimidating.

I can see that you were waiting for the nasty comments to rear their ugly heads. I was waiting for it, too. Jumping the gun can sometimes just exacerbate things, though. It bothers me a little about what happens to the puppies in the pet shops that don't get sold because everyone is suddenly more enlightened and doesn't want to support a corrupt industry. They tell people not to buy pets from market stores overseas, as well, but the illegal pet trade is still healthy and there are groups that raise money to buy out the doomed wild animals before they can be sold to less discerning people and try to rehabilitate them. IMO, you've got to treat every part of a problem that you can.

ORIGINAL: angeltrudelle

No I'm not saying that they are being nasty. I was saying something before people get mean. I have read some threads that do get mean. And I just think that instead of being rude, because this person bought from a puppy store, we could forget the fact he did and just try to help.

 
I definitely agree with you. People may not have gotten nasty in this thread, but it has happened before. I agree 100% that puppy mills are disgusting, awful and need to be shut down. Buying puppies from pet stores perpetuates puppy mills and therefore it's not a good thing to do. And I think this forum is a great place to educate people on the evils of puppy mills.
 
But lately people have been flogged just for introducing themselves and admitting they have a pet store puppy. Instead of reprimanding them in their thread, why not nicely educate them about the things they'll need to worry about as a pet store puppy owner and then direct them to one of the threads about the evils of puppy mills? The people will be more likely to stick around and more responsive to the ideas put forth on this board.

Lokis mom I agree with you
 
We need to educate more people of buying pet shop puppies or from byb's.
 
Lets face it we all know eople that have brought this way but they didn't know better. Many have now been educated and have learn't from their mistakes. Alot of parents are not educated about this either and go out and buy the kids a puppy not knowing. This is were more education is needed. We can't blame the kids for their parents doing, and lets face it there are some young kids on here, or come looking for answers.
 
 
 
 

FWIW, don't people think the OP was a troll? They titled the thread "pet store puppy," not "my cute puppy" or even "I love my jug." Sounds like angling to me.

ORIGINAL: jones

FWIW, don't people think the OP was a troll? They titled the thread "pet store puppy," not "my cute puppy" or even "I love my jug." Sounds like angling to me.

 
I thought the same thing actually. I was wondering if someone was just baiting us into a pet store puppy discussion.

FWIW, I wasn't trying to preach to the OP. Since my dog was also bought in a pet store by a friend of ours who later gave him to us, I wanted the OP to know that it will be difficult to impossible to get info on the parents or soi-disant "breeder," as I have had trouble locating Shadow's breeder, though I have his name from the purchase papers. Most likely, a byb. And that perhaps, in the future, the OP will think twice before buying at a pet store, for the reasons mentioned here.
 
I had no idead what a jug was in the OP. To me, a jug is one of two things. 1) a plastic container containing milk or water. 2) a gearhead euphemism for a cylinder on a motorcycle engine. So, the images in my mind were way off.

I had no idead what a jug was in the OP. To me, a jug is one of two things. 1) a plastic container containing milk or water. 2) a gearhead euphemism for a cylinder on a motorcycle engine. So, the images in my mind were way off.

 
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