Need Help With Puppy Pad Training

    • Silver

    Need Help With Puppy Pad Training

    Happy Saturday Everyone! I have already posted this question on the General Board. But wanted To add it here also. I hope that's all right. I need advice please! Willow is our 7 week old rescue puppy. Willow is still having trouble trusting people. So even if she walks close to us-when we reach for her she runs and hides. Most of the time when she comes out it's to poo or pee on the floors. We picked her up this past Tuesday & from the beginning we introduced her to the puppy pad. She's gone on it a few times and I know she's trying. Then there are times she just goes every where. I'm not sure how to go about getting her onto the puppy pad more. I have been using treats to follow me. Some times it works. My biggest thing is How do I correct a precious baby who's been abused and is still scared of people? Should I go ahead and be firm when she doesn't go on the pad? I don't want to mess up and make things worse for her. She's going to be using the puppy pad for the next 9 weeks-as I won't let her out in the yard till she's had all her shots and all her Parvos. So I need advice from experienced Mommies and Dad's.
    • Gold Top Dog

    Whether she's a rescue or came from a great, loving home, you really don't need or want to correct her for this other than to try to catch her and take her where you want her to go. The key is catching her doing the right thing and celebrating like crazy. If you catch her going in the wrong place and punish her verbally or otherwise, you'll just make her more fearful and you'll teach her to find a better hiding place to do her business.

    Are you using a crate? If not, that would be my first recommendation. It's the only way you'll have any control when you're not home. When you are home, I would keep her tethered to you with a leash. Where you go, she goes. You also need to antcipate her potty needs. Probably taking her to the pads every 30 min's ore so and 1st thing in the AM or after waking from a nap, etc. It'll take time but once you can catch the moments she does the right thing and throw a party for her, you'll be on the right track.

    ETA - is there a reason you don't feel like you can take her out to the yard, even without all her shots? Is it a public place that other dogs visit?

    • Silver
    Hi Cathy, Your a life saver! Every thing you said makes perfect sense. We have a crate & I will start using it. Mark & I will be going to Wal mart this evening to buy Willow a harness and a tether. Maybe by having her close to me all the time-will be able to bond more as well :-). When Willow has gone on the puppy pad we do make a big deal and praise her. We also give her a small treat. We have a medium fenced in area where our 3 Chihuahua's go. We keep it clean. But we do have stray cats that poop in there at times. So I was worried Willow could get sick. Our vet told us not to let Willow out until she's had 3 of her Parvo shots. We have 2 more to go. So when she is able to go outside will start making the transition from puppy pad to out side training. Thank you very much for your advice. This is going to help me train her much better!
    • Silver
    Hi Donna, I don't have anything to add to what Cathy said but want to make a suggestion to have your puppy feel more comfortable with you. I'm a longtime volunteer at my SPCA where 45% of our dogs that come in are cruelty cases. Have you and husband hand feed your puppy every meal that he gets for a few weeks and he will be a lot more comfortable with you.
    • Gold Top Dog

    Cathy gave you great advice and I second what she said.  I'd add that you should consider that Willow's chances of contracting parvo or some other dangerous virus are pretty slim.  As long as you avoid places that many dogs (especially stray type dogs)  frequent, the odds are in your favor. Heck, the vet clinic is probably one of the most likely places a pup would pick up a virus but vets don't tell people not to bring their puppies in for their shots.  Just use common sense but don't skip any socialization time with her. Lack of socialization is said to kill more dogs than any viral threat.

     Keeping her tethered to you may frighten her at first.  Get a leash at least 8 feet long.  Watch that she doesn't chew it in half if you get distracted. I'd keep a crate positioned so she can easily get in it if she feels frightened.  Make her crate a safe haven with a chew toy and maybe a towel draped over it for more security. Keep the crate in whatever room you guys spend the most time.  If you can, get two crates.  One for the living/dining area and one for the bedroom area. 

    Here's a good blog post from Dr. Yin.  http://drsophiayin.com/blog/entry/puppy-socialization-stop-fear-before-it-starts

    • Silver
    Thank you for adding too the wonderful advice. It's just about dinner time for her & the furbabies :-). Will start then :-).
    • Gold Top Dog

     I'd highly recommend, you look here

    http://www.dogstardaily.com/

    Check out the training text book, especially before you get your puppy, and after you get your puppy. 

    • Silver
    Thank you. I am on there website now :-).
    • Silver
    Hi Clifford, I hand fed Willow! She did amazing! I could feel her relax after a few minutes. Plus it was a great bonding experience :-).
    • Silver
    Hi Jackie, Thank you also for a great website! I pulled yours up as well :-). The vet had me scared to pieces about how easy it would be for Willow to get parvo. I wouldn't let my Chihuahua's out till they were almost 5 months old. because I was scared they'd catch something. We don't have any stray dogs in our area. We keep our area clean. Except when we realize stray cats have decided to poop in their area. Many years ago a friends puppy died from parvo-we were almost to the vets when he passed away in my truck. I never got over that. I felt helpless and gulity. I make it a point to socialize with her often through out the day. I just have to wait for her to come out from her hiding spot lol. Today was best by far. She let me hold her in my arms for almost an hour! And then I fed her from my hand during her dinner time. Another great piece of advice from here. I just want o say thanks to all of you for helping me with Willow. I am actually feeling more confident with the new things I have learned from all of you. It feels good. I feel like I'm finally on the right track :-).
    • Gold Top Dog

     To be completely honest, more dogs die due to a lack of proper socialization than die of parvo. I'm not saying you should take your young puppy that doesn't have all it's vaccines out to the dog park, but taking it to low risk places might be a good idea. Luke was a small puppy, so it was very easy to take him places when he was tiny. I never bothered with a puppy pad for any dog, and I also don't have a yard. Luke was enrolled in puppy class before I got him home (it was one of my stops on my way home from meeting him).

    • Gold Top Dog

     ^^^^ what Jen said. I brought Tootsie home at 10 weeks and she was enrolled in her first puppy class at 12 weeks. Socialization is key and I was more concerned with that then Parvo. You just have to be smart about it (not saying you're dumb). Don't take her to high traffic areas, like a dog park, but somewhere like the local coffee shop where theres other people. Everyone loves puppies. You could even carry her. Tootsie was very portable. Still is, but shes a dog and dogs have four feet for a reason. Good luck!