Shes Bald!

I know she wont have a full coat because of genetics. She is not from a BYB but I have noticed that even when you are buying a dog from reputable breeder here in Puerto Rico you will not get the same quality as a good US breeder unless you can find one of the rare people that have show dogs.
 
I know she wont have a short coat, just less of it, I dont want a big puff ball just for her to look REALLY nice with the coat that she will have as an adult.
 
I feed her raw egg and I am getting Biotin for my own hair, how much would the dog dosage be?
 
Im going to try the backward brushing but if Lizzie doesnt like it then I wont do it. Thanks so much, maybe I AM coming off as obsessed with Lizzie's coat but its just that I love the Collie look, they have really nice coats (full coat or not it still looks good) so I want to make sure Lizzie is also one of those dogs

something tells me people are going to look at your gorgeous dog no matter what you do...she is a great looking pup..

Diet and grooming are your best friends for the best a coat can be.

I had my boy Rebel,a yard bred GoldenRetriever,parented from champion line dogs,and tho he wasnt show quality i am sure,he was a GREAT retriever and knew his job well..i used to also love grooming that boy..i would take him out and he would get compliments everywhere we would go.

its funny tho,i went to a dog show(breed conformation)in Saratoga Springs one year and we were walking around the rings,and some of the people showing goldens were kind of snobby...i actually saw some point at my dogs as if they were pointing out "flaws"lol

i would have put rebel in the water doing his job with them any day in a real setting tho...i wonder how many of thier dogs saw time in a canoe pre dawn waiting to retrieve a duck or two.

no matter,i would never hold it against the dogs on show,they are beautiful dogs(all dogs are in my opinion from the greatest champion to the lowliest mongrel)but i find it a shame some people cant see the forest for the trees.

Who doesn't love the collie look?  Quite honestly, I very well may have been thinking of somebody from another board that has a Rough and is nuts about coat....I'm on three or four boards, so I do apologize for being a bit rude and snippy.
 
I can come off that way, but I don't usually mean it ^_^
 
Raw egg is good, I can't really mention much to really "poof" her, but fish body oils are good for skin and coat in general, line brushing will help bring the coat and ruff out.
 
There was something else I wanted to mention about Collie hair, but I can't remember what it is for the life of me now!

The egg should provide plenty of biotin. It seems to be working, for Emma.

She is a smaller dog than Lizzie, though, and gets one egg per day. If eggs aren't expensive there (I have no idea the prices of things in other areas, and I get my eggs super cheap), you might try giving her a couple of eggs, every day.

She's not bald.. she is a beautiful little dog

Lizzie says thank you! She also thinks shes very cute, she spends all day looking in the mirror. []
 
Well I have been feeding her eggg every other day, I wasnt sure if it would be too good to feed every day but I will definately feed her one everyday now. I get my eggs from my great grandmothers chickens. She has about 20-25 chickens and there is NO way she can eat that many eggs!

How old is she, anyway?  Sorry for my ignorance, I think you joined while I was off lambing.

The collie coat you see on the show dogs is not "normal".  I rarely see even well bred companion collies with coat down to the ankles, especially in the summer in the hot South.   Plus it takes many years for coat to fill out on a coated dog.  BCs don't have their full coat until they are around four.

I don't know when Big Coat first became desireable in the show ring, but it's been an albatross around the neck of the herding breeds.  Collies used to have coats pretty much the same as today's BCs - in fact they came from the same original stock.
[linkhttp://izebug.syr.edu/%7Egsbisco/bewick.htm]A collie in the 1790s[/link]
[linkhttp://www.geocities.com/heartland/valley/5755/collie1903.jpg]A collie in the 1800s[/link]
[linkhttp://izebug.syr.edu/%7Egsbisco/til3a.jpg]A collie in the 1930s[/link]

So there's still a wide range available in the breed, but dogs with lighter coats are selected against, for no particular reason other than it's not as attractive.  There's no particular reason to breed Big Coat except judges like it.  Ask anyone who is trying to finish a normal working-coated BC against the imported Australasian Big Coat strain.  If you don't select for big coat, however, the other, more sensible coat gradations, will resurface (except Smooth, which is dominant and therefore cannot emerge from crossing two Roughs).

Here's a lovely article from a well-known herding breeds historian, about the early divisions of the collie into working and show type, leaving behind the all-around sensible general use dog they both came from.

[linkhttp://izebug.syr.edu/%7Egsbisco/artlr1.htm]"Whatever Happened to Old Shep?"  by Linda Rorem[/link]

Lizzie turned 5 months old on the 8th. I have noticed that the dogs with the exaggerated big coats are the show dogs. I mean a normal BC does not have so much coat, a normal Golden doesn#%92t have such an abundant coat, neither does a Collie, just to name a few. I don#%92t really like the show Collies whose coat weighs more than they do. I like the Original Lassie version (just with a tad bit more coat). I know the recent version of Lassie is a fat dog with way too much coat. I know she will have a long coat because she is not a Smooth, but I do want that coat to be very nice and as healthy as possible.
 
I know a guy that lives near my job who has an 8 year old Rough male and he has A LOT of coat but it is not a good  looking coat. He got this boy from a BYB, and I mention this because here you have a dog that has as much (or maybe more) coat than your normal show dog, and I have a pup with a bit less coat and I get told she is from a BYB (which is untrue) Just goes to show that pattern or coat type has nothing to do with origin.
Brookcove: Keep working those dogs, I absolutely love that you are using your dogs for what they are meant. I would love to get some sheep for Lizzie but I don#%92t have the room!
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Five months!  No wonder she's "bald".  []  That's the time when almost all BC owners say, "My fuzzy puppy is a smooth coat after all!"  Nine years ago when I got Ben, I accused the rescuer that I got Ben from of slipping me a lab mix, he was so long, and lean, whippy tailed, hound eared, and slick coated.  He didn't have much of a coat until he was just over a year old.  Now you see what he looks like.  It doesn't really matter of course, but I kind of know how you feel.  I enjoy seeing his coat ripple in the wind when he goes off to gather the flock.  []

Lizzie is still a developing dog-and I bet hasn't had first heat yet, so not fully mature.  Some breed lines mature later and coat out later.  I have had great luck with coat quality by supplementing with salmon oil, flaxseed oil, brewers yeast, and norwegian kelp (not all at once mind you, and some dogs respond better to certain supplements than others-takes about 4-6 weeks to note if there is a positive impact)  Right now, she looks as if her coat is very smooth and glossy, and that texture would prevent it from fluffing out more.  Just like some of us are born with fine hair, or thick hair, there are big variations among even dogs from the same litter.  You have to remember that maybe one dog out of every litter might be truly a conformation show quality animal in all regards, and even that isn't a guarantee, but that isn't a reflection on the quality of the dog or the breeder, just a fact that very few dogs match up perfectly to the breed standard definition.  You can have a dog who is true to type by personality and function, but not necessarily in appearance, and you can have another who is beautiful to look at, but the porch light is on and nobody is at home. 
 
I really think that perhaps it is too early to be worried-quality food, perhaps some supplementation, brushing and grooming regularly, and see what happens as she matures.  Might just be a late bloomer.  and even if she doesn't wind up with the huge coat, it will save your grooming headaches and vacuum cleaner bags, so it isn't a totally bad thing-she will also be cooler in the hot weather, and for agility, well, she should have a much easier time going through the tunnel without the huge ruff of fur.
 
Remember, at the end of the day, win, lose, or draw, you are going home with your best friend.  I remember in Junior high, everyone wanted Farah Fawcett hair, and maybe one in 20 of us girls could actually get our hair to look like that.  I think that with dogs, it is much similar.  So your dog isn't Farah Fawcett......right now.
She may yet surprise you.

a normal Golden doesn#%92t have such an abundant coat

 I've got to disagree with you here.  My Golden pup's Grand Dam lives across the street, she's a working dog and she's got massive coat.  Samwise, my little guy, is done with his fuzzy puppy stage and looks very smooth but I can see the feathering starting on his legs, belly, and tail.  I have no idea what he'll turn out like but his parents are both full-coated and they're both working dogs. Ruby, my aussie, at almost seven months is finally starting to get a full coat and boy is it gorgeous!  Awesome feathering, thick and long, nice glossy black.  My house is gonna be a mess when these two start blowing coat! When I was a kid my brother found an adult female collie and we kept her after months of looking for her owners.  This was in Arizona, hotter than heck, and she had a huge full coat.  No idea what her background was, though. Your girl is really beautiful and way too young to have a full coat.  She'll come into it soon enough and then your vacuum will be working overtime!  [] Christi 

Christi you are absolutely right, with Goldens it all depends, just as with some other breeds. My mothers Golden has  abundant feathering on the legs and butt J but she doesn#%92t have a great deal on her chest. Her brother (same litter) has got a TON of hair, I mean he would make a top Golden look like a Mexican Hairless J Lizzies mother had a gorgeous coat, not extremely full but very well kept. Her father was quite young when he sired the litter but his coat was also coming in quite nicely. So it really all depends on the breed and genetics, but I still believe that some AKC breeds have way too much coat than what the standard actually calls for, making us pet owners believe there is something wrong with our dogs.
 
Julitza

Hi Lizzie's mom,

I personally think she looks great.  However, if you are worried about her hair growth, have you asked your vet?  Have you ever had blood work done on her?  Being thin and having thin hair could be a sign of hyperthyroidism.  Just an idea.  But, like I said, I think she's beautiful []

Dont thyroid problems show up later in life? From what I understand you cant diagnose a thyroid problem on such a young pup. But maybe im wrong and if I am it may be worth checking out, Lizzie is as skinny as a stick [&:]
 
But just to update: She just turned 6 months old August 8th and she is starting to look good! She has a big skunk stripe going down her back and by her shoulder blades, you can really see the coat growing in!

Female collies has less fur than male collies............SHE IS BEUTIFUL IS SHE AVAILIBLE FRIDAY FOR AN DATE LOL KIDDING.