Ok, what is she? *pic HEAVY!!!*

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    Ok, what is she? *pic HEAVY!!!*

    I have my guesses as to what my foster dog is,,,but I would like some more opinions. Supposedly she is a year old but I wouldn't be surprised if she is more like two or three, so she should be done growing. She stands 23 inches high at the shoulders, her tail curls over her back although sometimes she holds it out straight. She is very active and loves to run, run, run!!!!! She is smart although she can be stubborn when she doesn't want to do something, she is good with my dog and cat but we're having aggression problems with certain other dogs. She doesn't like men (this might just be her past though, not her breed(s)) and is overall wary of strangers, although she warms up much quicker to women and she loves all kids right away. She will try to chase anything small (squirrels, chipmunks, strange cats...) and it's impossible to call her off once she starts the chase. Let see, she likes to play in water and that includes her water bowl, the pond, and mud holes if they are available[;)]. She is fiercly loyal to me and very protective of anything she sees as hers (usually to a fault), she usually runs at a lope and seems to be able to run for long periods of time like that. That's all I can think of right now, let me know what ya'll think!!!







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    And here are some more pics





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    Looks like a Karelian Bear Dog to me...with likely nothing else added. You should contact their rescue....they can probably make a definiative judgement for you. If you check on them via Google you'd see her temperament fits right in. Esp the prey drive and single mindedness on the chase. These dogs bark and advance on BEARS to scare them away...they have umm...BIG ONES.
     
    I'm going with KBD only. [linkhttp://www.beardogs.org/kbds/]http://www.beardogs.org/kbds/[/link]  [link>http://www.beardogs.org/kbds/team.html]http://www.beardogs.org/kbds/team.html[/link]
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    And some more, I know a lot of them are of her laying down but otherwise it's sooo hard to get a good picture because she's always moving!!! The third pic here is the night I brought her home, you can see the mistrust in her eyes,,it took her a good week until she finally warmed up to me. And the last one here is a dead give-a-way to one of my guesses.







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    Gina,,,someone else on this board mentioned that and I have to say she seems to fit the temperment. I just find it soo hard to believe that in my area someone would actually have a dog of that breed. I think I might try to see if there is a rescue near me, because it would be interesting to see what they would have to say.
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    Given their propensity to escape and range FAR and wide...who can really say? Was she a shelter pull? Owner turn in or stray?
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    She was an owner surrender. Actually it's a crazy story. The guy who turned her in pretty much just dropped her off and said she is crazy. When we looked up the vet info he left with us we found that her previous owner was a woman who had adopted a dog from us recently,,,needless to say that worried us. So we called this lady and got the full story on this dog. This dog was initially her son and daughter-in-law's but she didn't think it was being cared for properly so she took it home with her, after a month or so she still wasn't able to do anything with her so she decided to find it a new home. Her husband had a co-worker who wanted her and he seemed like he would offer her a good home, so that's where she went. And he's the one who dropped her off. She was actually listed at the shelter as a lab mix, go figure. 
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    Lol...that story would actually fit a KBD quite well. They do their own thing, have been bred to for hundreds of years. That could irk some people who aren't prepared for that lol. Many of the more primitive breeds like Akitas and Jindos have that effect on people and bounce around quite a lot...poor things. They are a hunting breed so the stalking thing would fit quite well. Does she bark? Is it loud?
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    People surrender very fancy rare pure-bred dogs to shelters all the time. It makes me wonder too, but I've witnessed it happen too many times to think that they're all flukes.
     
    I personally witnessed a couple surrendering a pure neopolitan mastiff to our high-volume non-fancy shelter becasue they were getting married and between the two of them they had too many pets. Neo rescue was called and took the dog a couple days later. The thing is, they had adopted the dog from that same rescue originally, but didn't return it back to them as per the contract that most breed rescues have with adopters. I think a lot of the time people are so ashamed at what they're doing, they don't have the balls to return the animal to the breeder or breed-rescue like they're supposed to. And with difficult breeds, that dog may have been in four different homes since the original person who bought the dog as a fancy pure-bred but then dumped it at a shelter, and by that time, no one knows where the dog came from, where it's papers are or in some cases whether or not it's pure-bred.
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    Right...I've seen a few rare breeds on those TV shows, Dogue and Cane Corso come to mind, that cost...even cheaply bought THOUSANDS. And they end up neglected or in a shelter situation. Sad...
     
    It does happen tho! And prime examples are "big", "headstrong", "independant", "wandering", "barky" or potentially "dog aggressive" breeds like the Mastiffs, hounds, and Primitives.
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    Check-check right here on the "wandering", "independent" and "barking"!

    Though I think the primary reason for Marlowe's appearance at our shelter was "wandering". Houndsmen generally don't care about the barking and independence.[:D
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    I definitely see the KBD.  She is very pretty!  She looks as if she was well taken care of at least.  If I have to guess a mix though, I would say Border Collie/Husky...but I think I'm going to go with the KBD.
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    Uh, she's all Border collie and not a bit of anything else. I can even give a guess what lines she comes from (Kuykendall, Thompson's Tweed, a little LA Alexander cattle lines).

    23" is well within the norm for some of the cattle lines. And of course all the rest, smooth coat, prick ears, loves to run, loves water, escape artist - all BC.
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    By the way, are you in MI or GA right now? If you are in GA I could help you find a working home for her - cattle or goats. I can tell from the pictures she's a bit of a nutter who needs a JOB. [;)]
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    I don't see smooth coat...I see double, thick NORTHERN breed coat, like an Akita or husky. I'll disagree.
     
    But perhaps foster momma can take her around some sheep on a lead and see if she will chase them to herd or to take them down. That'd be one way to tell.