i sortof have a problem with designer dogs.

glenmar: I do have to say my husband wouldn't even DREAM of telling me that I couldn't go someplace or do something,

 
That was a simple statement of fact, not an attack on anyone.  MY husband has enough respect for me as a human being to not "allow" or not allow me to do anything that I choose to do.

ron2 - What is a Sibes?

 
Sibes - forum slang for Siberian Huskies.
 

ORIGINAL: Pwca

I'm on a number of horse boards too, and while they're generally delightful, I don't think they're particularly superior to i-dog. (I've known some of the posters- meilani and Salukimom- on here for close to 6 years, so I don't think I'm wrong in this judgement, either.) I think you may be confusing the word 'mature' with the word 'agreeable' in that horse people, who are not necessarily dog people, tend not to feel as strongly about responsible DOG breeding as those on this board do. (Though bring up the unwanted horse issue, HYPP, or irresponsible HORSE breeding and they'll likely be just as passionate about it.)

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I think you misunderstood me, I was comparing their opinions on breeding horses with the opinions here on breeding dogs.  The issue was fresh in my mind because we just had a 3 page discussion where the forum admin was wanting to breed her unregisted, unproven Arab mare because she wanted a baby that nobody else had "messed with" and she was taken to task for it.  In the end she took a break from the thread and announced that she had decided that in the end it was not the best choice to breed.  Although, I will say that many of those members are also invovled in dogs (rescue, agility, advocacy, confo), and feel very strongly about the dog breeding issue (we have had a couple of these discussions as well).
 
I think what mollymoo is missing is that nobody is attacking her dog on an idividual level.  Yes, we a re all dog lovers here, but being a dog lover also means having real concern for the ethics involved in bringing dogs into this world.  I have a pit mix and LOVE bully breeds.  However, I can tell you that there are a very select few "reputable" APBT breeders out there.  I think only one or two actually health test their dogs, there is quite a problem of falsifying papers, not mention the fact that these breeders are adding dogs to a world where 1 in 600 pits finds a good home.  Now, most of these admonishments to not come from other "dog people" they come from those invovled in bully breeds.  We love the dogs, but have a problem with the practices.  I think you'll find those involved with greyhound rescue have a similar attitude about their dogs.

ORIGINAL: faramir

meilani: I would think the majority of people who bought dogs from responsible breeders had to travel in order to get their dog. I would also think that a lot of people who've adopted dogs also traveled a bit as well.

 
You actually believe that to be an attack? LMAO! Come on now. If you could find a responsible breeder of any breed/mix in your local vicinity, you'd be extremely lucky. Unfortunately, that's not how it always works out and I speak from experience.  

ORIGINAL: glenmar

And, gosh darn, I REALLY don't get anyone's husband tell them they CAN'T do a danged thing.....MY marriage is an equal partnership.  And, if it wasn't, I wouldn't be in it.

 
My wife is a HRD manager for a group of Catholic hospitals.  She has been on that job for about 20 years.  Because of her time in that type of environment, she really doesn't cuss.  I never met anyone who NEVER cusses.  However, I bet if I told her she HAS to do something or that she CANNOT do something...
 
...well, yours might then REALLY be bigger than mine.  []

ORIGINAL: glenmar

...guess we need little icons to denote sex of posters!

 
Want me to see if I can come up with a couple?  []

glenmar: I do have to say my husband wouldn't even DREAM of telling me that I couldn't go someplace or do something,


That was a simple statement of fact, not an attack on anyone. MY husband has enough respect for me as a human being to not "allow" or not allow me to do anything that I choose to do.

 
sorry...that was an attack...because mollymoo had said her husband would not want her driving far away to find a shlter dog...it wasn't just a statement of fact...it was a comparison that was meant to show poorly on mollymoo.
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the issue, anyway, is not whether your statement or anyone elses is so bad...read them all together...and you will see that it is quite rude...there is such thing as disagreeing in a friendly manner

You are, of course, free to interpret or misinterpret my comment in any way you choose to do so.  I am telling you that my intent was not in any way nefarious.
 
DH and I have been married for going on 24 years.  We have a partnership, not a dictatorship going on in our marriage.  I'd spit bricks if he ACTUALLY told me I *couldn't* go someplace or do somethingl  We discuss, not issue and obey ORDERS.
 
I'm sorry you don't understand that concept.

glenmar...you can respond to this...but this is my last comment on this...
 
you made your statement IN RESPONSE to mollymoo...it was not a statement in a different context...in the context you spoke it, you were comparing yourself to mollymoo...and the implication i believe that was clear is that you were disparaging her relationship with her husband, because he would not want her to go...if you can't see that point, i give up...and it is clear why you didn't understand why she would get defensive.

I think we should stop arguing. Obviously Far has nothing more to do than to aggrivate us. I believe that he/she is "poking" at us and trying to get a rise.

The thing he/she listed me as saying was not, could not be considered an attack. It is a fact. I know plenty of people who do small dog rescue so there is no denying this lady wanted a mixed dog from a breeder.

I am out of this conversation because it is pointless and hopefully Mollypoo and Far truly know better now.

I hope Mollypoo enjoys her dog but I also hope she has realized how many mixed breed dogs there are looking for homes & why you shouldnt buy from a BYB. I hope for Molly's sake as well as her owners that Molly doesnt have any serious health problems that are commonly associated with back yard/puppy mill breeding. (Again I know from experience).
 
Molly-I dont want you to feel bad. We all want you to enjoy Molly we just want you to understand that BYB's and puppy mills are wrong. I made the same mistakes, as most people on here have as well. I got 2 dogs from a BYB, but once I was educated about it I started to get involved in rescue.. Hopefully you will too

mmthomason:
Molly-Obviously you havent visited your shelter. I know a lady who has 14+ small breed dogs in her rescue. She pulls them from kill shelters. ... She actually HAS a maltipoo in her rescue right now
 
this CANNOT be construed as an attack?
she SAID she went to HER local shelters (not yours)...and she said she wanted a PUPPY.
but then replying to her that she OBVIOUSLY did not do what she said she did...in no way can be construed as an attack?
especially when added to all the other comments from other people....ok
 

i dont have a problem with designer dog!
proud owners of a labradoodle called jerry,if you werea true dog lover then you would like the dog no matter what breed it is!

http://www.jerrythelabradoodle.co.uk

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Eh..Not worth it, Joel will be gone soon since he was BANNED by Jamie but has found a way to sneak himself back in.
 
 

ORIGINAL: jerrythelabradoodle

i dont have a problem with designer dog!
proud owners of a labradoodle called jerry,if you werea true dog lover then you would like the dog no matter what breed it is!

[linkhttp://www.jerrythelabradoodle.co.uk]http://www.jerrythelabradoodle.co.uk[/link]

 
I DO like dogs no matter what.  I just don't like the fact that they are bred on purpose.

Hiya,
I'm in the uk so we don't have much in the way of puppy mills if we do have them at all.
There are people who breed doodles and cross spaniels (king charles and cocker etc) and others, is this the same sort of thing?
 
I would also like to add that if you read into the historys of different Breeds of dog you will find that along the way they were crossed with a different type of dog, to create what we know as a breed.
so in away creating designer dogs has been around for many years.
 
This is not to say I agree or disagree as I think it depend on why it is being done, if it is only for money then I don't agree, but if it is to help in other ways such as disablity dogs or something like that then I would have to say that I would be alright with that.
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