Pointers on Pointers. :P

Hi Diane,
 
Your Gracie looks beautiful, how old is she ?
Jazzie my pointer is 5months on monday and growing weekly!!!!have been measuring him every fortnight on the utility door outside its amazing to see how much they do actually grow in height and length.
You say she is very kind,jazzie is too not an ounce of aggression in him, great to know that you can go anywhere with them especially around children, i think they are fab!!!!!!!!!!!Havent let jazzie off the lead too much yet as have read and been told by the vet they could suffer with hip dysplasia in later life if let off to run too early,we let him off for about 20mins then feel thats long enough and when he runs he runs!
Have had lots of fun with him he definetely is "our baby"
Oh and your other dog is a sweetheart too very pretty []
Love to see more pics of Gracie,
Claire & Jazzie x
 

Hi, Claire,  Thanks for the compliment.  Jazzie is also a very handsome, noble looking dog.  It's always amazing to me how they can be so stable and mild mannered in the house and so fast and strong out side! 
 
both Trudy and Grace are 2 1/2 yrs old,  Grace is a field bred pointer out of the Elhew  line.  She could be a hunting machine, if we worked at it a bit. 
 
We do agility and obedience with both of the girls (anything to make them both mentally and physically tired - lol).  We took them to the dog park on Friday and Grace do 4 laps around the place before she decided to check out what was going on in the interior. 
 
The girls are best friends, though and compliement each other greatly.  Trudy is a little fire cracker and Grace is the grounded one. 
 
Are you planning to hunt with Jazzie?  How did you decide on a pointer? 

Well since everyone else is posting their lovely Pointer pics, I figure I'll join in [] 
 
Here's my black and white girl, Piper:
 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

What a photo Diane perfect stance(if thats what you say in doggy world)!!!shes just gorgeous.
 
I m not planning to do hunting with jazzie but would really like to show him and do some obedience shows too,he learns very quickly but because of his age he tends to loose his concentration very very quickly, at the moment i am doing about an hour a day, its very tiring for me and him im exhausted afterwards!!!!We take him once a week to classes which is very good as he gets to get aquainted with other dogs and his best friend there is a st bernard who is the same age as him and has been going since day one she gets very upset when he gets a telling off as though to say "dont tell my mate off" its quite funny to see.
 
I had a cocker spaniel for fourteen years he was a sweetie too but sadly had a heartattack, i was devastated when he died and couldnt ever imagine loving another, but two yrs later i decided it was long enough and i was over my grief(took me a long long time)to get a totally different breed and one who i could give lots of time to which as you know pointers need loads of attention, went on the kennel club site and found the breeder in Telford went to see him at three wks old fell in love and bought him and picked him up at eight wks old.
He has been excellent from the day we had him although i do give him my undivided attention most of the time and my boyfriend does who before we had him was not a dog lover but know well thats all changed he loves him as much as i do.
 
Anyway have to go as he is sitting beside me looking at me and i know what he s thinking "time for the park"
take care claire & jazzie x

[]Hi Piper is gorgeous too love her all black ears,
    How old is she ?
 
     Claire x

Claire,
Thanks for the compliment, again.  She has actually filled out and muscled up since this shot.  The previous owner was not happy with her, because she was gun shy (probably boot shy!), and got a bunch of pups out of her and then dumped her (she was just a pup herself).  She actually is a bit "cow-hocked" in this picture and now her structure has improved greatly.  She has also gotten much more confident, as well.  I should stack her up and take a picture just to do a "before" and "after".

Jazzie sounds great to me!  He's a lucky dog.  At 5 months, you can't expect too much focus.  My setter was absolutely impossible until she was approaching 2.  She would be a sparkling little star for about 5 minutes and then just all over the place.  Now she is just fabulous.  When I got Grace, she was already approaching 2 and had already has puppies (poor creature), so was more mature, but difficult to engage if there were distractions.  She  is getting better and better all the time.

I know how it is to lose a special dog.  My border collie mix, Crystal, went through hell and high water with me.  She was my heart dog.  I still have her picture on my office wall.  I have to catch myself when I compare these girls to her. 

DeterminedX2,
She's gorgeous.  Love the spots.  Do you think that she could have a bit of Dal in her?  Does she point at everything that flies in the yard?

Thanks []   She is about 1.5 years old.
 

Do you think that she could have a bit of Dal in her?  Does she point at everything that flies in the yard?

 
It's possible she is part Dalmatian, but unlikely. When we first got her we thought she was a Dalmatian mix but now Pointer makes much more sense. I live in the South and she was from a rural area where there are lots of Pointers (or bird dogs as they're sometimes called here.) I know she was shot at by teens/ preteens, and while I'm not entirely sure, I think it's because she wasn't a good enough hunter. I guess they thought she was expendable because she didn't point well enough. To answer your question, no, she doesn't always point at things she sees in the yard. More often she just freezes... she doesn't always put her front leg up. She never ignores an animal though, she either freezes, points, or bolts after it.
 
Forgive me if this is dumb question but.... Pointers have webbed feet, correct? Mine does, I'm just wondering, since Pointers hate water (or at least that's what I've heard.)

Beautiful pointers everyone!  This forum has the most pointers on it than the others that I'm a member of.
We got Casey at a dog festival 4 years ago as a puppy.  She had come from a local shelter and had similar markings as our elderly cocker spaniel (who died a month later) so we had to have her.  She has been the best dog we've had.

 

 
 
 

 
Sorry about the random sizes.  My computer broke and I lost some of my favorite pics and I had saved them on photobucket after resizing them.

Pointers technically have oval feet that are pretty tight and not webbed. They're not water dogs, however the German Shorthaired pointer is more "all purpose" does do water. 
 
She just doesn't have the boxy muzzle and deep set eye that most pointers have.  She could be part lab (they do have webbed feet!  Her markings do suggest that she is part pointer, setter or GSP.  Whatever, she is beautiful!

Erl,  I love your dog's ears.  She looks like quite a charmer.  Are you doing any sports with her?

ORIGINAL: diane303
She just doesn't have the boxy muzzle and deep set eye that most pointers have.  She could be part lab (they do have webbed feet!  Her markings do suggest that she is part pointer, setter or GSP.  Whatever, she is beautiful!

 
I'm assuming you're talking to me... if not disregard this post.
 
You're right, she could be mixed. But I really can't see lab or GSP in her. It's hard to tell from the pic but she's very thin. Her whole body, especially her waist, is tiny and lean. No she's not underweight (you can't see her ribs.) Her chest is deep but not wide. Her tail is long and her coat is very short and tight. She's less than 45 pounds so it's hard to picture her as part lab or GSP.
 
I've seen some pics on Pointer rescue sites that look A LOT like her. I've heard that the field lines don't like exactly like the show ones, since they were bred for ability not looks.
 
But I don't know. It doesn't really matter to me. She's a great dog. []

Hi ,Jazzie detests water will not go out in the rain and if made too sometimes has no choice he walks on his tip toes as though the ground is hot its so funny, he will hold all his wee wee s until the rain stops which here in Wales could be a very long time!!!He follows me everywhere except the bathroom where he knows the shower is, we have never scared him of the water it seems its in his breeding as the breeders told us there s are the same.
Oh well saves me walking him in the rain hes a fair weather walking pointer[]
 
Some pictures i took yesterday, he was 5months old........
 
Claire & Jazzie 

Hi Erl is gorgeous, especially like the close up of her.Couldnt imagine her in a shelter, how could anyone give her away she s Pretty,
 
Keep the pictures coming in everyone great to see all those luuuvvvvly doggies[sm=clapping%20hands%20smiley.gif]
 
Claire & Jazzie x

Dear determinedX2,

Errrgh, didn't mean to offend you!  But the fact is that pointers, even field pointers, don't have webbed feet and labs do.  They are not water dogs.  Labs (especially field dogs) can be small and slender, too.  GPSs are about the same size as pointers but have a little different conformation and do everything.  My Gracie is a field dog and yes they varie a bit from the bench dogs that are usually bigger,  not a whole lot.  People ask me if Grace is part pit (lol)!  Actually Jazzie (Claire's dog) fits the standard better than any dog on this thread, including my Gracerella.  Besides, what's wrong with having a pointer/lab mix!  mix might moderate the pointer tendancy to run for miles and ignore you when it sees prey (greyhound influince, I suspect).  Most of the dogs in the beginning of the post were hounds and not pointers, although the pointer lineage has lots of hound in it.  I'm always amazed that both my dogs are bread to do basically the same thing and they come from totally different types of dogs.  They both point at everything instinctively. 

English Setters come from spaniels and pointers originate from a large pointing dog from Spain with greyhound, bloodhound, and foxhound with a little bit of bull terrier for tenacity.  But no water dogs here. 

Keep in mind that many of the pointers in rescue are, in fact, mixes and it is very rare that papers or any proof of breeding is included. 

Here are some kennel sites that, I believe, do a good job in describing the breed.
This site for show dogs
http://www.numarkkennel.com/englishpointer.htm
This site for field dogs
http://kissameekennels.com/about.htm

Oops - Numark's dogs are field pointers also (beautiful dogs)

Here is a show pointer site:
http://www.aurichalcumgundogs.fsnet.co.uk/Aurichalcum/Page_2x.html

Setters have a bigger difference between bench and field.  Trudy is an English Setter from the Llewellin line (pure field setter).  Lavoricks are the bench line (tall with lots of lips and long feathers).  They look like two different breeds.  Many people ask me if she is a Springer mix or, better yet, a border collie mix because she can really burn up the agility course. [] I'm usually flattered by that one.