Chuffy
Posted : 1/30/2008 9:39:41 AM
redlegos
What do you suggest is a good amount of time after he's used to it?
I try not to let ours stay in the crate for more than an hour, although I do leave them longer if they are sleeping. That depends on his comfort zone - and how how you want to spend desensitising him. If I were in your position, I think I would be happy leaving him in there for very short periods, like mealtimes and never expecting him to stay in there longer. I think I would just feel guilty given his past experience though!
redlegos
If/when he's in trouble, do I just sit him in there? How will he know the difference between a "time out" and a "mom's just trying to protect me" thing?
I don't really like using the crate for "time outs". Some dogs do OK with that, but given his history I would want to be extra specially positive with the crate, and never let it have any negative connotations at all. If by "in trouble" you are maybe thinking of Xerxes advice on pg1, I would have an area which it is safe for him to stay in for a few minutes alone which is NOT the crate. It might be a kitchen or bathroom or study or spare room... or even just put him out of the room that you are in for a few minutes. (Although the latter isn't such a good idea if he is likely to become stressed to the point where he becomes destructive or eliminates for example) If you need to use the crate as a "time out area", try to think of it that you are not PUNISHING him by putting him in the crate - you are just removing him from a situation so that he cannot "practise" inappropriate behaviours.
redlegos
I've been doing some NILIF.. before he gets to go out, before he gets to eat, before he gets treats.
What about car rides, games, toys etc? Sitting to have his lead attached, sitting at the door, sitting to have his lead taken off? Sitting or laying down periodically on a walk, siting to have a door opened even if it is to another part of the house? We aren't very strict with NILIF here at the moment... we were at one point, but once they realise about "the rules" and get used to following your directions, you can usually relax it a little.... you can always step it back up again if you need to. Some dogs seem to thrive with more boundaries, others can sope with less.
redlegos
I know this sounds stupid, but can he still sleep with me at night, or is that a no-no for right now? And I don't have to make him sleep in a crate do I?
I would perhaps introduce the "up and off" game with the bed as well and make him sit before being invited on to the bed as part of your NILIF. OUR dogs sleep in crates, just because that's how it works best in our house. If the crate is primarily a tool for helping to manage and alleviate his aggression and he has never shown any aggression at nighttimewhen everyone is alseep, then personally I don't think you HAVE to make him sleep in there. It's up to you. You could perhaps leave the crate open in the room and LET him sleep in there if he wanted to! If he chooses to sleep there, it shows that he does feel safe in there and that he likes it. It is a very positive thing and IMO should be encouraged.
You know about Pavlov's dogs salivating when he rung a bell? Well, a crate can work kinda like that. If you make it a "happy place" for them, then after a while just being in there helps them to feel good... relaxed, calm and happy.