Dogs and Chickens

ORIGINAL: dogslife

I would always be concerned about the permanence of this effort . 

 
Then it wont work because you are setting yourself for failure, if you think that it might fail then it will []

ORIGINAL: espencer

ORIGINAL: dogslife

I would always be concerned about the permanence of this effort . 

Then it wont work because you are setting yourself for failure, if you think that it might fail then it will []

 
That sounds far too much like magical thinking to me!!! Plus, I don't have any chickens! []

ORIGINAL: dogslife


That sounds far too much like magical thinking to me!!! Plus, I don't have any chickens! []

Its not magic, if you have doubts about it then your body lenguage will show it to the dog, therefore your dog will know you are not confident on what you are doing and wont take you seriously, as easy as that []
 
Works with chikens as well as roosters and turkeys, rabbits, kids, toys, you name it

Can you or would you trust a Siberian or 2 to not chase and kill the chickens?

 
 
No supervision.......no, with me around, yes.

ORIGINAL: snownose

Can you or would you trust a Siberian or 2 to not chase and kill the chickens?

No supervision.......no, with me around, yes.

 
I agree with you!  Instinct surpasses a lot.  You would have to train and train and I still would not have 100% surety re. that!
 
Sometimes it is just to irresistable.  The look that a Sibe gets in his crystal blues, and woops, feathers everywhere!
 
I think that if you had better decision making and got the chickens first, and then the puppies.  Introduction at the young age and then desensitization could start at the formative years...See how that went!
 
My female stalks little tiny sparrows, so I am certain that she would absolutely love to chase a chicken.  My boy, seems to not care.  But I think the chickens squalking and flapping  would be a real test for him!
 
LOL, we are not getting chickens anytime soon!

ORIGINAL: espencer

ORIGINAL: dogslife

I would always be concerned about the permanence of this effort . 

Then it wont work because you are setting yourself for failure, if you think that it might fail then it will []

Before you make such an assertion, I think you need more experience on topics like "predatory drift" and how fast it can happen, even in well behaved dogs who respect their leaders.  The desire to chase and kill prey is hard wired, it's just more apparent in some breeds than others now, due to selective breeding.

I have a flock of chickens. I just taught my dogs a very strong "Leave it" and made it clear that it would be the sorriest day of their LIVES if they even thought about touching them- the tone of voice and the SHOCK I would express when they even looked at the chickens was enough for them to realize that going near them uninvited was pretty much on par with attacking a human. So basically, throught acting as shocked and upset and appalled as possible whenever they even looked in that direction, they learned to leave them alone. I don't know if that would work for the OP, but it did for me. My dogs are pretty in tune to my emotions and while they may not care too much if I'm angry, acting as though I'm shocked/scared/upset and makign a HUGE show of it is usually enough to make them not do whatever it is I don't want them to do.


But I agree with everyone else that until your dog gets to that point (if he ever does) he does NOT need to be left alone near the chickens. Simple as that.
 
 
ETA: It also didn't hurt that benvolio, my Polish roo, got sick of the dogs bothering his girls and strutted right up to Ogre and gave him a nice sharp blood-drawing peck on the nose. Ogre acted like he was being gutted, and the other dogs heeded that warning pretty well. []

the dog in question is a boxer isn't it, not a siberian?  I wouldn't even try to teach a siberian to stop chasing prey cause it won't work. Boxer, maybe.
 
 here's a standard protocol for teaching dogs to not chase. It uses an ecollar, but that's not really necessary. It explains the concepts involved. Note that it says your chances of success are much lower if your dog has actually caught prey animals before.    [linkhttp://www.loucastle.com/critter.htm]http://www.loucastle.com/critter.htm[/link]
 
Stopping high-prey drive dogs from chasing and killing is extremely difficult using pure training. Management (fences, leashes) is far more effective.

ORIGINAL: spiritdogs

ORIGINAL: espencer

ORIGINAL: dogslife

I would always be concerned about the permanence of this effort . 

Then it wont work because you are setting yourself for failure, if you think that it might fail then it will []

Before you make such an assertion, I think you need more experience on topics like "predatory drift" and how fast it can happen, even in well behaved dogs who respect their leaders.  The desire to chase and kill prey is hard wired, it's just more apparent in some breeds than others now, due to selective breeding.

 
Ah is amazing how we tend to raise our own "mental walls" and think that there is still impossible things to achieve []

espencer, exactly how many dogs have you trained to not chase chickens? 

ORIGINAL: mudpuppy

espencer, exactly how many dogs have you trained to not chase chickens? 

2, and you?

ORIGINAL: mudpuppy
espencer, exactly how many dogs have you trained to not chase chickens?

ORIGINAL: espencer
2, and you?

I wouldn't generalize too far from an experience pool of two.  [8D]

ORIGINAL: janet_rose

ORIGINAL: mudpuppy
espencer, exactly how many dogs have you trained to not chase chickens?

ORIGINAL: espencer
2, and you?

I wouldn't generalize too far from an experience pool of two.  [8D]

I wouldnt either and i never said i'm a trainer, eople here say that is "extremely difficult", and others that still need special leashes while are around with their dogs in public and are supposse to be trainers are saying the same, well i'm not one and at least I have done it

People who say it is "difficult" say that because they have extensive experience with MANY dogs. It depends on the dog. Most people who have owned sight hounds or huskies would **Content Removed** if you suggested they can teach their dogs to not chase chickens/cats/rabbits/squirrels while unsupervised.

You gotta love the "mental walls" raise by ourselves [8D]