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    thank you ill see if my library has those books )
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    I'm likely to get blasted for this, but, so be it.
     
    Jaye, after something like 2 minutes of dog ownership you jumped into a second dog.  And a small one with temperment issues at that.  I firmly believe that a dog THIS small doesn't need to be around a lot of small children....it's overload for the poor guy.  Sometimes rehoming...say to an older couple without kids, is the kindest thing we can do.
     
    I adored Sadie...she is a wonderful girl.  But, my resident bitch was being just that to her, and Sadie couldn't be who she needed to be.  At 13 months I sent her to Lori, along with her  younger foster brother, and she is soooooo happy there.  She runs with Lori, she's the Queen Bee of the household, and a different girl than she was HERE.  So TRINITY has a better life because I did what was BEST for her.
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    Who cares how many dogs she wants to have. Its her right to have pets. And if she can make a go of it then so be it. She needs to handle it instead of pushing it on someone else to deal with.
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    Is there ANYTHING I can post that you won't find issue with? 
     
    Jaye has almost NO experience with dogs.  She is a single mom with small children, a NEW gsd mix and now this little guy.  She has a full plate and bringing in a second dog so closely on the heels of the first sure wouldn't have been something I would have suggested, especially NOT a little dog around small kids.
     
    What I SAID is that sometimes we need to think of the best interest of the dog, and I'm not sure it is IN this dogs best interest to be in such a busy home.
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    I am new to this forum, so forgive me if  I am not updated with all issues previously discussed. I can give you some tips, if you'd like.
     
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    glenda, thank you for your input.  the dog is fine in my home, its not hard on the dog to stay in my bedroom when the kids have company.  he is extremely happy with us.  if i thought for one second rehoming him would be in anyones best interest i would consider it.  but its not.  my home is not a constant madhouse, sorry if thats how it sounded to you,  and again, the problem is not only with kids.  i also dont see the problem with my getting a 2nd dog, i was ready for it.  i dont see how that has anything to do with this.
     
    on another note, luv4gsds has a right to post her opinion.  i wish you would stop getting  so defensive whenever someone disagrees with you.  we all have a right to our opinions not just you.  you have a lot of experience and are very helpful at times but you are NOT ALWAYS right. 
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    I think this is the best advise you have recived so far! It is a definately a huge step in the right direction! 
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    Jaye, one thing I learned with Boss was when there were noises he was unsure of and could possibly pose a problem, him not being able to see what was making that noise was actually worse.
     
    For example: I moved in my house last Memorial Day weekend. About 2 weeks after moving in, construction started next door for a strip mall. I have only one window on that side of the house that is low enough for him to see out of, so Boss' view of what was going on was limited. He was in a new situation, with new loud noises and what happened was me coming home to chewed up furniture, shoes, etc. when we had gotten past this before moving here. It ended up with him having to be crated when I went to work again after he chewed up my brand new couch and chair, most of my shoes, started pooping in the house, etc. These were all things that were not an issue before the construction started.
     
    With your little guy, it's a double-edged sword because to leave him out you face him biting someone or being aggressive, but to put him in a room alone may cause anxiety type issues and he may start to act out in there. Could you maybe put up a high safety gate and make sure the kids and their friends know not to reach over it so at least he can see a little bit and get use to the noises more? Maybe every now and then have someone come by and talk to him without any touching contact.
     
    Just a suggestion and sharing my experience.
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    ORIGINAL: luv4gsds

    Who cares how many dogs she wants to have. Its her right to have pets. And if she can make a go of it then so be it. She needs to handle it instead of pushing it on someone else to deal with.

     
    Easy there killer.  I don't think she said that jaye had no right to have a second dog, but jaye started this topic looking for advice, and I don't think that Glenda suggesting that this could be part of the problem is exactly far fetched.  I don't know about you, but I have read numorous times from trusted sources that it is best to NOT get two dogs very close together.
     
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    Jaye, after something like 2 minutes of dog ownership you jumped into a second dog. 
     
    That is what I was refuring too. And that isn't given anyone advice.
    And getting two dogs close together that is refuring to age wise. I've gotten two dogs at the same time (sisters). And I haven't had a major problem. And the dog just don't have problems with kids it is having problems with adults too. And I wouldn't pon it off on someone else to deal with especially older people.
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    So you would recommend that someone with barely any experience with dogs and who has chidlren get too dogs very close together?  I've never heard that given as advice.
     
    I would never recommend that someone do that with horses, and the horses aren't even living in the house with them.
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    She needs to handle it instead of pushing it on someone else to deal with.

     
    Actually, this is being simplistic.  While it is not adviseable to push an aggressive dog onto another unsuspecting owner, it is often fine to rehome a dog that might be happier in another environment and not be as inclined to exhibit aggression (I think this might actually be fear in this case) in the new home.  It is probably a good idea for jaye to get an expert opinion, based on her particular dog's body language and behavior, as to what can be done to make her family and her dog happiest.
    I have a great hound!  He was not happy in his last home, but ended up being really happy here.  So, what would you say to that previous owner, who recognized that he needed a different situation?  I'm very glad she did, and the dog is not miserable anymore.  Part of our responsibility as owners is to do what's best for the dogs who depend on us for care, not act in our own selfish interests. 
     
    Chi's do not have a reputation for being great with small children, and I do not advise letting a fifteen pound dog run anyone's household.   What I do recommend is keeping the kids and the dog safe from one another while you figure out what to do.  A Chi is tiny, but it can still rip a kid's face if it's frightened. 
     
    jaye, if you are intent on keeping this dog, grab a copy of "Little Dogs - Training Your Pint-Sized Companion", by Deborah Wood.
    I think that the nippiness may be "best defense is a good offense".  Also, many training facilities now offer "petite pals" or "wee dog" classes.  Take advantage of that if you can find one - you get to teach your dog the basics without the chaos that usually happens in a mixed class with adult dogs.  It should be easier to deal with him concerning other issues once he understands some English!
    One of the first things I would teach a scaredy dog, a guardy dog, or even an aggressive one, is "leave it".  If you search the archives, you will find the protocol I use.
    Deb Wood also has a great book on shy dogs (Help for Your Shy Dog) that has great hints on making progress socializing a dog that may not have had much before, which may be this dog's problem. 
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    This is what its about hofmanngestalt.
    when we first got jake (the 15 pound chi mix)  he was pretty friendly with everyone, we ve had him for about a month now and he has turned pretty agressive toward most people.  he will even try to attack people sometimes.  so now whenever my kids have company over i have to lock him in my room because he has gone after their friends before.  a couple things that will set him off is if anyone picks up anyone else he will attack the one that is holding the other person.  kids playing (screaming cause they re all girls) loud will set him off, fast movements, or sometimes just for no reason.  he snarls at some of my neighbors even though they re friendly and dont do anything wrong around him.  when we meet strangers sometimes hes ok and sometimes he snarls for no reason.  is there a cure for this behavior or is it just typical people-hating chi behavior. 

    hes fine with me and my kids, even when they re loud and move fast.  its just other people.  and hes fine with people who come into my home.

     
    People do it every day thats what it makes it so great about having free choice. And horses and dogs are different type of animals. Its like refuring a chicken to a cow. If she is trying to make a place for those two dogs to live instead of living in a shelter or worse been euthanized then all means go for it jaye. People take on two pets every day.
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    That is how she probably got the dog in the first place been handed down from person to person no one willing to take the right steps in the dogs training.