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I have no advice, but I do hope it gets better for you. =) I'm dealing with the same issue with Hap (the jumping) and he doesn't even have a "young" excuse, lol. Sigh. It's embarassing when new people come over, but we're working on it! Just keep trying and good luck!!

hapnthatch

I have no advice, but I do hope it gets better for you. =) I'm dealing with the same issue with Hap (the jumping) and he doesn't even have a "young" excuse, lol. Sigh. It's embarassing when new people come over, but we're working on it! Just keep trying and good luck!!

Thanks. :-/ I hope things get better over there as well! I've been lucky and he doesn't jump on others, he's really good with people. Ugh he's a good dog he's just VERY stubborn with certain things. 

 Tons of good vibes coming your way!! Rest assured, he will grow out of it! At least, that's what I keep telling myself with Jackson.So, I do feel your frustration.

What are you doing when he starts to jump you? How are you redirecting him?

 He's a puppy!!! When Bean was about his age, she figured out that she could hit the back of my knees and knock me down. She also learned that  if she slipped her collar, I couldn't catch her. Dangerous, and ridiculously embarrassing, when it happened in public. They're puppies, though! They do silly things, and they do outgrow it. When they have more training, and more self control, you can stop that monkey business before it starts. He will grow up, and when he does, you'll miss his adorable (though sometimes obnoxious!) puppy self

 Dexter used to do the same thing when we first got him at 11 months old.  He seemed to do it more often when he couldn't get what he wanted - Like if he saw a dog walking on another path that he wanted to greet and couldn't, or if we stopped to talk to someone in the park and the attention was no longer on him.  He was so stikin cute and we know his foster mom let him get away with a lot of behaviors that we were going to have to work on to correct - like the jumping.  It does get better - He just turned 3 on June 1 and doesn't jump at us any more. That's one puppy behavior I don't miss!

THat's the teenage "happy dumb" stage!  Echo is just so happy and joyful that she winds up doing dumb things with herself, if that makes sense. She is mouthy, jumps up, does the 'hit and run' where she bounces off your stomach and flips around into a zoomie.  She's a goofball.  Sometime within the next couple of years they'll come to their senses and start acting like boring adults.

:)  Can you take him to a class?  That has helped Echo on so many levels.

Tink has developed an almost unconscious immediate 'sit' and 'lie down' because even at 2 1/2 she's STILL such a *** PUG PUPPY***

(sigh)

Make sure when you want him to settle *fast* stand with your feet a bit apart, FISTS on your hips and literally make yourself into a 'tree' -- meaning, make your body COMPLETELY ***stiff*** -- practice this.  Your stance has to be something the 'dog' part of his brain sees and reacts to as "ohhhh she's SERIOUS"

Remember -- dogs look at other dogs ALL the time as part of communication.  So by mimicking that in your OWN body language you'll actually have more immediate success.  If you fist your hands -- that's not to hit him -- but it will subconsciously in YOU remind you to be stiff and unyielding as you say "Sit, Simba" (a command -- no whine in your own voice, no pleading -- just a direct almost mannish sounding Sit!"

It works -- it really does.

 When he does this I make a deep grunting sort of noise and say 'no' in a stern tone before telling him to sit. Which doesn't always work so I will show him a treat and usually that does the trick and he listens. I know for the most part it's just pent up energy, which can be difficult to release when we don't have a backyard for him. :-/ I've tried the long line up in a ball field but all it did was tangle him up in it, I don't want to take him to a dog park for reasons others share. I need to find somewhere I can take him though, because throwing a ball and doing training with him to keep him stimulated doesn't always cut it for him. :-/

I believe he is starting his second round of obedience in the fall. I want to go sooner but my mom is the one paying for it and she wants to use the same trainer. *sigh* I'm hoping once he gets in agility he'll love it and that can be his way of releasing all this energy.  I think he needs a short hike in the woods soon, just something to keep his mind going and not being wind up all the time. :-/

 wow, he sounds exactly like Duncan, a belgian malinois that was in my control unleashed class. Have you read that book or seen any of the DVD's? When the dog first came in to the class, he used to tug on his owners pant legs, bite her when he got frustrated or excited, etc. He really improved with the CU exercises.

Jewlieee

 wow, he sounds exactly like Duncan, a belgian malinois that was in my control unleashed class. Have you read that book or seen any of the DVD's? When the dog first came in to the class, he used to tug on his owners pant legs, bite her when he got frustrated or excited, etc. He really improved with the CU exercises.

Belgian's <3 

And no I haven't, whats the name of them? 

punkchica321

When he does this I make a deep grunting sort of noise and say 'no' in a stern tone before telling him to sit. Which doesn't always work so I will show him a treat and usually that does the trick and he listens.

But you don't want him to ONLY listen to you when you have food in your hand -- that's not obedience -- that's a bribe. 

It's *not* just your voice -- you truly can give off mixed signals if you  ONLY use your voice.  Remember, dogs communicate with other dogs and they never *say* a word.  They read each other by smell and they read each other by visual cues -- like how tense the skin/muscles are, ear position, tail position ...

 Altho my Grandfather could wriggle his ears it wasn't horribly effective as a dog training tool and I'm not even gonna "go there" about wagging your ... er ....

But you CAN show tension in your body and give Simba the cue that you are absolutely expecting to be listened to.  it's habit more than anything ... but it will back up your words better than anything.

Don't misunderstand -- I'm not talking "agression" -- I'm simply saying this will make Simba "hear" you better.

Think of that one teacher you 've had in school that EVERYONE listened to -- the kids didn't disrespect this teacher.  Now think back to their voice and how they meant every word.  YOu could tell when they really wanted something done.  It was not just in their words -- it was in their tone. 

Another suggestion -- next time instead of a ball, take a Kong outside.  Yep -- like you'd stuff with something in his crate?

 They are RUBBER and they bounce like heck -- BUT ... because of that "snowman" (sorta 3 balls on top of each other) shape -- they will bounce COMPLETELY unreliably.  They can't predict where it will go and it can be a WHOLE lot of fun to bounce a Kong around in the yard. 

(edited because I can't spell tonight)

calliecritturs

punkchica321

When he does this I make a deep grunting sort of noise and say 'no' in a stern tone before telling him to sit. Which doesn't always work so I will show him a treat and usually that does the trick and he listens.

But you don't want him to ONLY listen to you when you have food in your hand -- that's not obedience -- that's a bribe. 

It's *not* just your voice -- you truly can give off mixed signals if you  ONLY use your voice.  Remember, dogs communicate with other dogs and they never *say* a word.  They read each other by smell and they read each other by visual cues -- like how tense the skin/muscles are, ear position, tail position ...

 Altho my Grandfather could wriggle his ears it wasn't horribly effective as a dog training tool and I'm not even gonna "go there" about wagging your ... er ....

But you CAN show tension in your body and give Simba the cue that you are absolutely expecting to be listened to.  it's habit more than anything ... but it will back up your words better than anything.

Don't misunderstand -- I'm not talking "agression" -- I'm simply saying this will make Simba "hear" you better.

Think of that one teacher you 've had in school that EVERYONE listened to -- the kids didn't disrespect this teacher.  Now think back to their voice and how they meant every word.  YOu could tell when they really wanted something done.  It was not just in their words -- it was in their tone. 

Another suggestion -- next time instead of a ball, take a Kong outside.  Yep -- like you'd stuff with something in his crate?

 They are RUBBER and they bounce like heck -- BUT ... because of that "snowman" (sorta 3 balls on top of each other) shape -- they will bounce COMPLETELY unreliably.  They can't predict where it will go and it can be a WHOLE lot of fun to bounce a Kong around in the yard. 

(edited because I can't spell tonight)

Yeah I know, it's bad to bribe but I just get so fed up and I don't want to yell at him and just want to get inside. Not a good excuse though. :-/ I did the whole firm body posture tonight when he tried jumping on me in the house and haha he stopped so quickly. Ugh he can be so stubborn sometimes though. I will try the kong as well! He has at least three of them I think. :P 

Also thanks for the book suggestion! I tried to see if it was in my library but it isn't, guess I'll just buy it. :-/ Probably better if I do as well.

It's absolutely amazing -- when you "say" something with your body like that they go 'WHOA ... **she** is serious!! I heard that!"

See remember you have to be 100% consistent.  If you "bribe" him during the act of doing something BAD then you are rewarding that behavior and he'll do it AGAIN and AGAIN (cos it works!)