Invisble Fencing

    • Gold Top Dog

    The other bad thing about e-fences is that a thief, an off leash aggressive dog, a taunting child, or a coyote, can come in any time it wants to.  If you are always out there with your dog that's one thing, but the temptation to leave the dog "just for a minute" is also there, too. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Well, I guess I really didn't get the answers I was looking for. I consider myself one of the MOST educated people on the pitbull breed after working in Animal Control and as a vet tech for nearly 8 years combined...as well as reading every bit of research, or anything on pitbulls.  Yes, they are dangerous...but so is the Golden Retriever that bolts out into the street when I am walking my dogs and jumps on them and won't stop even for it's owner grabbing it's collar pulling it away.

    I was more concerned that the invisible fence would cause them behavior issues like fear of the yard, or fear of the e-collar, or fear who knows what.  I guess I'll just do some internet research and talk to other pit owners to see if they can recommend the best system...one that has the most effective training...and such. 

    I think anyone who lets their dogs out in the yard without being out there with them is making a big mistake.  I have my dogs trained, and the invisible fence would be a backup as well.  Like one person said...it's better than nothing which is what I have right now. The wood fence will be going in within the next year to 2 years or so...but it cannot right now as we have been spending thousands clearing trees along our property line to make room for a fence.

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    RubyandStewiesmom

    Well, I guess I really didn't get the answers I was looking for. I consider myself one of the MOST educated people on the pitbull breed after working in Animal Control and as a vet tech for nearly 8 years combined...as well as reading every bit of research, or anything on pitbulls.  Yes, they are dangerous...but so is the Golden Retriever that bolts out into the street when I am walking my dogs and jumps on them and won't stop even for it's owner grabbing it's collar pulling it away.

    Um... I dont recall anyone here calling your dogs dangerous.

    Bullys, as a BREED, have high pain tolerance. When they want something, pain only adds to their excitement. Which makes an e fence a bad choice to contain them with. It has nothing to do with whether your dogs are "dangerous" or not.

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    Spazzy

    RubyandStewiesmom

    Well, I guess I really didn't get the answers I was looking for. I consider myself one of the MOST educated people on the pitbull breed after working in Animal Control and as a vet tech for nearly 8 years combined...as well as reading every bit of research, or anything on pitbulls.  Yes, they are dangerous...but so is the Golden Retriever that bolts out into the street when I am walking my dogs and jumps on them and won't stop even for it's owner grabbing it's collar pulling it away.

    Um... I dont recall anyone here calling your dogs dangerous.

    Bullys, as a BREED, have high pain tolerance. When they want something, pain only adds to their excitement. Which makes an e fence a bad choice to contain them with. It has nothing to do with whether your dogs are "dangerous" or not.

     

    Exactly.  Any breed can bolt a fence, and whether you like to think about it or not, predatory or high drive dogs, regardless of breed, are at greater risk for "predatory drift" when that happens.  The problem is that when it happens with a Pit, they are rarely forgiven, and any problems with them (even someone being chased when the dog only wants to say hello!) are magnified and likely to impact all Pit owners via BSL, which we are all interested in stopping.

    Bully owners, if they want to protect their breed, need to get off the hypersensitivity and be realistic about breed propensities.  I would not contain my Aussie in e-fence for the very same reason.  Herders, if they get ramped up, are likely to nip to get the passerby to move faster away from their property.  Do I want my Aussie giving some jogger a herding nip?  Of course not - the person is going to report that as a bite, for gosh sake, even if it's just a hard poke.  If I turn my back on her for a sec to pull a weed or dump some poop in the bucket, can I really guarantee 100% of the time that she would not bolt the fence?  What if one of my neighbors suddenly decided to walk a calf from one parcel of land to another in front of my dog just at that moment?  I doubt she would go after the calf if I could issue the "Leave it - come!" in time, but human inattention is always possible, and if you don't cue your dog, or it isn't as reliably trained as you thought, even a few seconds can mean trouble that you didn't need.   Besides, I just don't like the idea of shocking a dog to train it, and your points about yard fear are well taken.  I have one client whose dog was "trained" on e-fence once, and the next time they tried to take her out the back door, she froze and wouldn't go into the yard.  Herders and working breeds are often "one trial learners" so it isn't that uncommon to have that happen, and, to be honest, most of the people who are selling those things are not trainers, they are just trained by the company.  One client came to me with horror stories of how badly her installer was, and her dog was getting aggressive to all male visitors:-((

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    • Gold Top Dog

     I don't have an E-fence or a physical fence.  My Springer is soft and would probably learn the e-fence quickly.  I watched a neighbors Springer being contained by an e-fence, and it was interesting.  The dog spent her day testing the boundary  She got down on her belly and crawled till it zapped her.  A little back flip, and off to test a new spot.  She had been trained, knew it was going to zap, but wanted out. She has since been rehomed to a lake shore home and has more room to run and children to play with.

    I can see what RubyandStewiesmom is trying to do, and wish her well.  It may work, but I have a lack of faith in e-fences.  Not so much at failing to keep your dogs in, but at keeping others out. 

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    i own one for the very same reason you are considering to get one. i have a decent size yard and have been saving money for a fence for the past 6 months. after you do boundary training, i don't think your dog will accidently enter the correction zone unless you have a complex shaped boundry layout. there's a warning tone when they get too close. my golden has been shocked 3 times, in the beginning and that's it. now that's he older and trained, i don't even put the collar on him and he still won't cross over. i've also never left him out unsupervised. i mainly got it b/c he chased birds and cats into the neighbor's yard. another alternative that is this http://www.bestfriendfence.com/