Working with a 6 year old Border Collie

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    Working with a 6 year old Border Collie

     Hi there. I have owned my Border Collie since he was a pup. Unfortunately despite being taken to dog parks and introduced to new dogs at home and at neutral territory, he is aggressive towards other dogs. Around strangers he is very guarded and shy (not terribly unusual for a BC right?). My friend and I want to go in dog 4H together, and out of my three lovely dogs I think Buddy would be most 'suitable' for it. However he only knows the basic obedience as I have had troubles teaching him anything else. He gets distracted very easily and likes to run off (comes back when called usually, but not all the time).

     He is a shy dog, and will sit while I stroke him but runs off if I try to scratch his belly or give him a good rub.

     I was hoping I might get some training/socializing tips - any and all advice welcome. If it will be too hard for him to do all of this I don't want to push him, but it would be nice to go to 4H with him.

     

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     Even shy dogs can be taught to come out of their shells. However, if he has dog-dog problems and shyness you should get him in an obedience class with someone who has experience handling those types of dogs. It takes a delicate hand and a lot of patience. A class like that would give you the knowledge and skills to help get you and your dog off on the right foot.

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    I think that clicker training is one of the best things for bringing shy dogs out of their shell. I agree, though, that you're going to need some professional help. Look for someone who trains with positive reinforcement, and has LOTS of experience.

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     Btw, two GREAT books to read to get you started is Control Unleashed and Click to Calm. It will explain where a shy and aggressive dog are coming from mentally and give you with exercises to work through it

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    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that what you've got there is not a shy dog, but rather one who has decided to make up the rules in his life.  Border Collies combine top of the scale sensitivity to pressure, with a sharp intellect, and a control freak nature.  I call these dogs "Worriers."  They are not shy, or fearful as such, but rather they just think the weight of the world is on their shoulders and they've got to do something about everything they see.

    It's very common for dogs like this to only want to be touched on their own terms, if they can get away with it, and to realize that by acting "scared" they can pretty much call the shots.

    Anything like Control Unleashed will help.  You've got to get him to accept your handling in all situations.  He's six so it will take a lot of patience.  Start small, with quick touches in the areas he has declared "off limits."  Work up to handling and brushing of every part of his body, looking in his mouth, holding him by the collar, clipping his nails, etc.

    The dog aggression is a little touchier.  Again, this is a common symptom of a Border collie who feels he's got to be the one making the rules.  BCs can be pretty snobbish, so rule #1 usually involves keeping other dogs at their distance.  You can combat this by being very strict about his behavior around other dogs.  He is not to look at them,  or worry about them.  Instead his job is to keep track of you, and if need be, in the beginning, you can use a command that will give him something to do instead of worrying about the other dog.

    Finally, you really, really, really need to do some kind of formal training with this dog.  "Worriers" are the worst when they are bored.   Males about this age can become downright dangerous - it's the sort of thing that takes a dog from a pleasant companion environment, to here, which while it's a nice place for my dogs, rehabbed dogs, and humans, it's more like Boot Camp for aggressive BCs.