Beginnings of food aggression?

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    Beginnings of food aggression?

    Oh, boy.  So I just went home for lunch to let Harry out for a potty break and feed him his lunch.  After he finished his lunch, he started chewing on a Kong ziggy treat (even though I wanted to take him for a walk, he had other ideas).  So, anyway, Harry has NEVER shown any food aggression tendencies towards people since I've had him (about 1.5 months now).  I can stick my hand in his food bowl while he's eating and he doesn't care (I don't actually do this for kicks, but did once because a leaf fell in his bowl).  While he was chewing his ziggy, I bent down to pet him and get an eye-goopy off his face (I do this all the time, with no reaction).  He let out a little grrr, jumped away from me, and ran into another room!  We have a houseguest and his dog staying with us, who is food aggressive.  We feed them separately and do not give them treats or anything when they're in the same room.  But...a couple of times, Harry sniffed the other dog's empty food bowl, and the dog lunged at him.  I immediately picked up the bowl and put it away to prevent further problems, but our houseguest keeps forgetting to pick up his dog's bowl after feeding, so when it's happened, it's before I've even realized the bowl is there.  Could Harry's behavior today be something he has learned from this other dog?  Could it be because he was sleeping when I got home, so I had to wake him up and he was grumpy?  Does this happen as they mature (he'll be 5 months next Monday).  I DO NOT want this behavior to continue or get worse, so I desperately need advice to keep it from getting out of control.  And BF and I are going to talk to our houseguest about being more diligent with his dog's food bowl.  After all, it is Harry's house!

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    I don't think it's necessarily learning as much as he might be a bit tense with another dog around, period. Anything new can sometimes trigger new behaviors. If he's a teenager, can't tell from pic....things might come up just because of that as well. But IMO it's the new dog, but I am sure being gone after when food's involved has also made him tense.

    Others will have input as to training but that's my .02 as to cause.

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     Regardless of the cause, what he did is a food aggression issue. Fortunately, it's a very early stage and should be pretty easy to over come.

     Here's some resources for you:

    http://www.bestfriends.org/theanimals/petcare/dogs.cfm

    http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=SRC&S=1&SourceID=47

    http://www.clickersolutions.com/articles/index.htm 

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    rwbeagles

    I don't think it's necessarily learning as much as he might be a bit tense with another dog around, period. Anything new can sometimes trigger new behaviors. If he's a teenager, can't tell from pic....things might come up just because of that as well. But IMO it's the new dog, but I am sure being gone after when food's involved has also made him tense.

    Others will have input as to training but that's my .02 as to cause.

    Thanks.  It was sooo weird, because the other dog is not at our house during the day, so Harry and I were alone when this happened.  But...when he ran into the other room, he kept looking around and barked a bit, almost like he expected the other dog to come around a corner.  Harry's a few days shy of 5 months old.

    Thanks Jewilee.  We are actually in puppy classes now, so I will ask the trainer about it this weekend when we have class.  It just really freaked me out!! 

     

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    Questions I would have to ask are: How much interaction does Harry have with the houseguest? Have you witness on multiple occasions the houseguest dog being aggressive/dominant towards Harry?

    I personally think Harry feels like someone has invaded his home/space. This other dog seems aggressive/dominant towards Harry which can cause Harry to defend himself in all situations for FEAR of this other dog.

    I recommend talking to your guest! Since there is no need to "correct" this other dog's behavior (since it's not your dog or your place to) the guest dog needs to be crated while eating or in another room. Harry needs to be treated like the dominant dog of the house and you can not let the other dog push Harry around.

    Also continue to practice putting your hands in his food, playing with his chew toys/kong, and correct any negative behavior and praise good behavior. All though it seems obvious as to why Harry is acting this way, you don't want to use excuses. Train your dog to maintain good manners in all situations.

    Dogs can learn behavior from other dogs, most certainly! But I don't think this is learning behavior... I think this is fear.

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    Buy the book "Mine! A Guide to Resource Guarding in Dogs" by Jean Donaldson, and implement the protocol.  At this point, it will be mainly preventative, but you do not want this to become a problem - believe me.  This book is really excellent - it will take you through step by step and show you how to teach your dog to enjoy having people around when he has something special... 

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    Pomeranian <3

    Questions I would have to ask are: How much interaction does Harry have with the houseguest? Have you witness on multiple occasions the houseguest dog being aggressive/dominant towards Harry?

    I personally think Harry feels like someone has invaded his home/space. This other dog seems aggressive/dominant towards Harry which can cause Harry to defend himself in all situations for FEAR of this other dog.

    Guest and guest dog have been staying with us since last Wednesday, so little over a week.  Dogs interact every day before and after work.  Usually they play very well together.  Sometimes, they start out playing nicely, but things get a little too rough, so we will separate them and let them calm down.  Food aggression by guest dog towards Harry I have witnessed three times.

    I recommend talking to your guest! Since there is no need to "correct" this other dog's behavior (since it's not your dog or your place to) the guest dog needs to be crated while eating or in another room. Harry needs to be treated like the dominant dog of the house and you can not let the other dog push Harry around.

    Oh, definitely!  BF and I will be speaking to him about this today.  The dogs are separated during feeding, but I don't want to interrupt Harry's feeding schedule just because a new dog is in the house.  He eats at 6am, 12pm, and 6pm.  Yesterday evening our guest & dog were not home at 6pm, so I fed Harry, and then when they got to our house around 7pm, I took Harry to the backyard and worked on some training while the other dog ate his dinner.  But, guest forgot to pick up the empty food bowl, and when we got back in and Harry sniffed at it, guest dog lunged and growled.

    Also continue to practice putting your hands in his food, playing with his chew toys/kong, and correct any negative behavior and praise good behavior. All though it seems obvious as to why Harry is acting this way, you don't want to use excuses. Train your dog to maintain good manners in all situations.

    Will do!!  Just read a good article on this from one of Jewilee's links, and I will definitely be getting advice from our puppy class instructor.

    Dogs can learn behavior from other dogs, most certainly! But I don't think this is learning behavior... I think this is fear.

    His reaction certainly appeared to be fear, and he has never been afraid of me, or BF, or any person, so that's why it really freaked me out.  When he ran into the other room, he jumped up on the couch, so I just sat there and petted him and talked soothingly.  I was hoping to reassure him I would not take his food away.  Even if I have to take something from him, say he chews a bully stick down too small, I do a trade for a yummy treat.

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    schleide

    Buy the book "Mine! A Guide to Resource Guarding in Dogs" by Jean Donaldson, and implement the protocol.  At this point, it will be mainly preventative, but you do not want this to become a problem - believe me.  This book is really excellent - it will take you through step by step and show you how to teach your dog to enjoy having people around when he has something special... 

     

    Ditto.  I think this episode had less to do with the other dog than just the fact that he was chewing something "special".  I know plenty of dogs that let you stick hands in the kibble, but would bite it off if you went for their pig's ear.  Get the book and do the protocol - I do it preventively with all my dogs anyway.  But, if you have a resource guarder, it's imperative that you do this, and that you don't snatch things away from him or trigger the snarling.  The book will teach you how to work just under the dog's threshold and build his self control and tolerance for human hands near his stuff. 

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    spiritdogs

    Ditto.  I think this episode had less to do with the other dog than just the fact that he was chewing something "special".  I know plenty of dogs that let you stick hands in the kibble, but would bite it off if you went for their pig's ear.  Get the book and do the protocol - I do it preventively with all my dogs anyway.  But, if you have a resource guarder, it's imperative that you do this, and that you don't snatch things away from him or trigger the snarling.  The book will teach you how to work just under the dog's threshold and build his self control and tolerance for human hands near his stuff. 

    Thanks!  I am going to pick up this book this weekend.  I'm definitely going to nip this in the bud!

     

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    spiritdogs

    Ditto.  I think this episode had less to do with the other dog than just the fact that he was chewing something "special".  I know plenty of dogs that let you stick hands in the kibble, but would bite it off if you went for their pig's ear.  Get the book and do the protocol - I do it preventively with all my dogs anyway.  But, if you have a resource guarder, it's imperative that you do this, and that you don't snatch things away from him or trigger the snarling.  The book will teach you how to work just under the dog's threshold and build his self control and tolerance for human hands near his stuff. 

    Thanks!  I am going to pick up this book this weekend.  I'm definitely going to nip this in the bud!

     

    Yay! Happy to hear that you have a plan! BEST OF LUCK! Keep us updated.

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    Pomeranian <3

    Yay! Happy to hear that you have a plan! BEST OF LUCK! Keep us updated.

    Thanks everyone for the great advice.  I knew I could count on ya'll to help me out!  I will keep you posted on his progress.  I am very dedicated to making sure Harry is happy, healthy, and well-mannered, so I'll do what it takes to make all these things happen.