NEED HELP ASAP!! DOGS FIGHTING!

    • Gold Top Dog
    here is a link to NILIF.I think someone mentioned it already.  .I think it would help tremendously with the spaniel. Don't for a minute underestimate the power of this program.  It is very simple but highly effective. 

    http://www.humaneleague.com/Resources/documents/HLLCBuildingaRelationshipwithYourDog.pdf
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: probe1957
     Be a man.  Find your own place to live.

     
    Nuff said!
    • Gold Top Dog
    I am so sorry I ever found him, that from now one I vow never again to save animals

     
    Wow, I don't know what to say to that, and you say you care about dogs?
     
    You should be greatful YOU are not on the street.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Ummm, guys?  Just cuz I was a tad bit rude didn't mean I declared open season on the OP......lets try to be nice please.
     
    Anne makes an extremely valid point regarding the OP's dog.........
    • Gold Top Dog
    This is not a dog problem, its a people problem.  Why your not managing the dogs interactions is beyond my comprehension. [:(]  Keep the dogs seperated until you move AND did I read you leave all three dogs together at home alone????  No crates, no seperation??  Why??  [:@]  Your asking for trouble becasue when and I mean WHEN a fight breaks out and no one is home to stop it the spaniel is going to badley hurt or dead.

    I feel sorry for the spaniel and your inlaws what a stressful situation you put onto this household.  If your dogs are so good normally, why don't you find a friend to keep them until you move out.
     
    I would feel so badly about what happened to my inlaws dog and the stress it must bring to them and their homelife.  You should be thankful they allow you and your dogs to stay and do everything you can to make this situation better.  Don't try to fix there dog, just hurry up and fix the situation.
    • Gold Top Dog
    why are you happy when your big dog beats up a small dog??
    it's the cocker spaniels place and your dogs are guests
    whether he is stupid or crazy doesnt mean he should get the crap beat out of him
    hes been a stray and might have had an awful life and mayeb he had to fight for every morsel of food or attention
    if i was you i would make my dogs mind their manners and back up the cocker spaniel even if you dont like him
    your dog is just feeding off your emotions and thinking that beating up this little dog is the right thing
    i am sure you can find a couple childrens gates and block a part of the house off so every dog has enough room
    and if everyone is fustrated with this dog why can't you just find a rescue to bring him too, let him go to a home where people like him



    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: glenmar
    Ummm, guys?  Just cuz I was a tad bit rude didn't mean I declared open season on the OP......lets try to be nice please.


     
    First, let me apologize to everyone for the OT nature of my post here.
     
    Speaking just for myself, I don't pattern my responses after yours.  Never once has it gone through my mind, "Let me wait to respond to this post until I see what Glenda says."  [:)]
     
    If someone is in violation of the rules, I am pretty sure our moderator will point it out to them.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Best solution:  Find a new place to live.  Take your wife and your dogs and leave the house.  Rent something - if you could afford to buy a home, then you can afford to pay whatever you could afford for your mortgage toward renting a house/apartment/condo/townhome.  The spaniel and your GR don't get along, and this is causing trauma.  The spaniel is your inlaws' dog, so you have no control over what happens to this dog, whether it is being rehomed, trained with a behaviorist, or euthanized.  It's just not your call.  Save yourself the agony of trying to fix a situation that isn't yours to fix.  Do what you CAN be responsible for. 
     
    Personally, if I were experiencing this in my home, I would board my dogs until I could find something and I'd be working on finding something immediately.  You need to not only protect your GR, but the spaniel, your marriage relationship, and your relationship with your inlaws.  Get over the fact that you hate this little dog.  As others have said, the spaniel is not responsible for living out whatever past traumas are continuing to haunt him.  He is your inlaws dog and THEIR problem, not yours. 
     
    You may have saved a lemon here, but please don't let this sour (no pun intended) your experiences toward loving other animals and continuing to stand for saving other stray dogs.  Some dogs cannot shake their demons.  I've been down that hard road and I've unfortunately had to euthanize a dog that could never shake her torment. 
     
    • Bronze
    Good bye to everyone. This forum is for asking help, not getting attacked. You obviously care about the spaniel, and his psychotic mood matters doesn't. Yes, I love dogs very much, not psychotic dogs that bite when petted. I won't say thank you because I wasn't helped..so goodbye I'll find another forum.
    If you have nothing to nice or helpful to say, don't say anything. I feel bad for newcomers..

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    Don't bother answering, I won't be looking.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Ah some people dont like to accept is their fault more than the dog's fault, its fine, everyone that wishes a dog "bleed to death" is not welcome here in my opinion
     
    ps. i still see you are here reading [:'(]
    • Gold Top Dog
    The problem is the leadership, or lack there of in the home with socializing the dogs, seperating and training. If there is a problem you all must take steps to difuse the problem if you all must live in the same home. x-pens, crates and gates make for an easier transition. I have a few more dogs in my home then you and believe me this type of behavior is NOT tolerated or accepted and my dogs know it, your's should too

    If you would like suggestions this is the place but we will not tolerate the borderlinhe abusive attitude you have in dealing with these dogs here

    If you decide to stay I also suggest that you refrain from posting what I've removed above or you will have no choice in the out come here.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I think the problem is that people are thinking in "black and white" terms here.  They are also saying what I believe to be completely inappropriate comments about the OP's financial and living situation.  Just because life has thrown this guy a curve ball and he and his wife have had to move into his in-laws place does not mean he is "not a man" as some have said.  Life can be hard and people do what they have to do, especially when they are young.  That aside, is there anyone here who thinks that there is a responsibility here on the parents part to stop their dog from growling and biting PEOPLE!?  It sounds like the spaniel is not just going after a new dog on its territory, but has some dangerously aggressive tendencies in general.  If I were getting bitten by a dog and having my dog attacked on a regular basis I would feel frustration as well.  It sounds like the OP is the only one in the house who is doing anything about this situation.  I agree that the OP's comments have been juvenile and he definitely needs to find his center here, but I think many posters have lost their objectivity due to some of the language used and venting the the OP did.  This is not the spaniels house, as many have stated.  It is the in-laws house and they need to start acting like it by controlling their dog from growling and biting people.  I bet if they did that (acted like leaders of their house), the spaniel wouldn't be nearly as aggressive toward other dogs. 
     
      
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: minsk99

    I think the problem is that people are thinking in "black and white" terms here.  They are also saying what I believe to be completely inappropriate comments about the OP's financial and living situation.  Just because life has thrown this guy a curve ball and he and his wife have had to move into his in-laws place does not mean he is "not a man" as some have said.  Life can be hard and people do what they have to do, especially when they are young.  That aside, is there anyone here who thinks that there is a responsibility here on the parents part to stop their dog from growling and biting PEOPLE!?  It sounds like the spaniel is not just going after a new dog on its territory, but has some dangerously aggressive tendencies in general.  If I were getting bitten by a dog and having my dog attacked on a regular basis I would feel frustration as well.  It sounds like the OP is the only one in the house who is doing anything about this situation.  I agree that the OP's comments have been juvenile and he definitely needs to find his center here, but I think many posters have lost their objectivity due to some of the language used and venting the the OP did.  This is not the spaniels house, as many have stated.  It is the in-laws house and they need to start acting like it by controlling their dog from growling and biting people.  I bet if they did that (acted like leaders of their house), the spaniel wouldn't be nearly as aggressive toward other dogs. 

     


    Personally, I don't think the comments about the OP were entirely unfounded.  Sure, life can hand you a curve, but it seems to me that if it does, and someone lends you a helping hand, you don't bite the hand that feeds you, no pun intended.  This "man" is a guest in another person's household.  He and his family are the interlopers and he acts as though the homeowner should accomodate him.  I sense an all too common tendency to blame others for one's own misfortune.  Perhaps he did it to his boss, too, and that may be why he ended up jobless or homeless.  A little self examination might not be a bad thing.  Having said that, I can see where having discord between the dogs would be akin to having discord between one's children - neither party would blame their own.  But, no one can change anyone's behavior but their own, so it seems to me the leadership ball is in the OP's court.  So, if he doesn't like the fighting, and doesn't care for the fact that the landlord/parent isn't budging, well, be a man and take any job that will get your family and dog outta there.  Or, separate the dogs and quit griping.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Billy, I often noticed often that when I, or anyone, gets a bit rude that a new tone seems to be set for the responses.  This is not to suggest that anyone is "following the leader" but I know myself that I'll tend to be less tactful sometimes if others are less than gentle......and I personally felt badly that my somewhat blunt post seemed to open the floodgates.
     
    It is unfortunate that the OP has decided that we are not helping him.....I thot that there were some decent suggestions offered, but it also seemed like he wanted to blame the cocker for everything and his dogs were to be held harmless.  With my crew I try to see what someone might have done to instigate a problem.  Tyler, for example, will often pull his gums back and not even snarl, but he has "the look" that ticks Theo off and if I'm not careful and on top of things, there could be some posturing. So while Theo might throw the first punch, Tyler instigated it.... For as much as he says he loves dogs, I suspect that the OP is not terribly experienced with them and it almost sounds like he expects the cocker, who's life he saved, to bow down to him because he saved him from the streets....and that just isn't going to happen.
     
    Yes, the inlaws are probably wrong not to address some of the behaviors, but if those behaviors weren't there before the couple and THEIR dogs moved in, then the inlaws might just see the other dogs as the trigger and figure that they shouldn't HAVE to spend money to fix a problem that in their eyes the newbie dogs are creating.
     
    This is a tough situation all the way around, but it's clear from his posts that the OP has no respect for his wifes parents at all and I'm sure that attitude is NOT making things any easier for anyone in the home, dogs included.
    • Gold Top Dog
    To the OP:  If you are still lurking....
     
    The advice given on this thread is good advice.  If you cannot or will not move out, please seperate these dogs.  Your dogs are intruders in the spaniel's eyes.  These fights will continue to escalate until one of these dogs is dead, and though you may find that situation to your liking, it is likely to create a large rift between you and your in-laws. 
     
    Baby gates, crates, and X-pens are not that expensive, and are valuable tools in managing free space.  Please investigate those options. 
     
    And for the sake of all the dogs involved, please learn something about compassion.