How to get around fear barking

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    How to get around fear barking

    So Lily is a fear barker. Obviously she wasn't well socialized when she was a pup (this just drives home the entire early socialization thing btw!).

    I've been taking her everywhere I can in order to socialize her. I take her to the agility club. I take her to obedience class. I took her to a recent doggy get together at the doggy ice cream shop. She goes to the dog park about every other day. I take her in the car pretty much every where even if I have to leave her in the car. I *think* that we are making improvements. 

    I haven't been able to figure out what triggers her fear barking with strangers though. She doesn't bark at just men or people with hats or anything equally obvious. It seems random. Also, once she starts barking I haven't been able to figure out how to redirect her. I'm reading Control Unleashed but I haven't gotten to the Look at That game yet. Will that help? Is that the direction we need to go?

    This weekend I took her to the sledding hill near my house because she barks like mad at those kids on sleds. I just sat there with her and let her watch them. She barked for a while then calmed down and just watched. I think that's an improvement? I'm not sure. I've never had to deal with a fearful barking dog before. It's kind of embarrassing! I have to reassure people that she won't bite, she's just afraid.

    So what's the proper response when she's barking at someone? Should that person ignore her? Coax her to sniff them? Give her food? Should I turn her around and walk her in the other direction? 

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     You're a little ahead of yourself, that's all.  Control Unleashed is great, but I think you might get better initial results with Click to Calm - despite the fact that you are working with fear and not aggression.  A lot of the techniques are the same in terms of getting the dog to focus on you.  Plenty of time later for allowing the dog to look at the scary things in the environment.  First, establish communication that she can rely on. 

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    Jewlieee
    So what's the proper response when she's barking at someone? Should that person ignore her? Coax her to sniff them? Give her food? Should I turn her around and walk her in the other direction? 

     

    Hi, Jewlieee,

    Have you tried praising her? And I don't mean petting her, I mean vocal praise: "Good girl, Lily! What a good girl!"

    If that makes you feel uncomfortable because you think people will be asking, "Does she want that dog to be aggressive?" Try saying, "Be a good girl, Lily! You can do it! Good girl!" But with only positive, praiseful-type emotion in your voice; nothing else, just pure love and happiness.

    Why, you might ask, would you want to praise the behavior you're trying to get rid of?

    Well, why does praise feel rewarding to a dog in the first place? Because it makes her feel good. It creates strong feelings of social connection. And since all aggression is based on fear, and since it's hard to feel aggressive when you feel happy and socially connected to your owner, simply praising a dog can moderate or even cure aggression. (Here's a link: "Using Praise to Correct Unwanted Behavior.";)

    Another tactic I'd use is to teach the dog to bark for a toy or a treat, using the "Speak!" command. Then, once she'll reliably bark on command, tease her with her favorite toy, tell her "Speak," then while she's in the process of barking say "Quiet!" in an excited, hushed tone, and give her the toy, or throw it for her to chase. That will do two things: One is that barking is an assertive behavior. "I want that toy! Give it here!" It's hard to feel assertive and fearful at the same time. (It's possible, but it's not easy.) The second reason this works is that it not only builds your dog's confidence level (the barking on command part), it also teaches her a new skill, to stop barking on command. And that command is tied to something she really loves. Plus chasing a toy is also an assertive, confidence-building behavior.

    I don't know anything about the book you mentioned, but I've used these techniques for about 15 years with really good results.

    LCK
     

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    spiritdogs

     t, but I think you might get better initial results with Click to Calm - despite the fact that you are working with fear

    I was going to suggest that and you beat me to it. I lick to call it clicking when calm. Anyway, at the dog park or event, once your dog has settled down or is showing calming signals or even if she might seem excited but not fearful, reward that state of mind with whatever, food, praise, a toy, or all of the above. The idea is to help her associate what was previously fearful with something great. Or calm. There were times when I would give Shadow a sense of calm by whispering in his ear my nickname for him because it is what I whisper in his ear when we are sitting on the couch sharing affection. "Pretty Boy." The idea being that hearing "Pretty Boy" means all is well and he is secure with me.

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     Lee, "Click to Calm" was written by Emma Parsons, who is a well respected trainer and, I guess you could say, disciple, of Karen Pryor.  While I agree with your premise about praising to create those feelings in the dog, I guess I look at it a bit differently.  Some dogs will not be sufficiently motivated to relax by praise, and some owners cannot praise without nervousness in their voices.  So, I just tell them to find some really cool stuff, like liver brownies, or garlic roast beef.  If I want to condition the dog to changing its opinion about all the scary things in the world, I would feed like crazy each time a scary stimulus appears, and stop feeding as soon as it disappears (mostly, you know that a dog is too close to the stim if it's too nervous to eat roast beef, so that's a clue to back up to a distance at which the dog can eat).  If you don't proceed too quickly, works like a charm - with the added benefit of the click telling the dog that the calm response was exactly what you wanted.

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    And you're method is how I did it, with bits of cooked meat. There is a bit of neuroscience involved in the click. It is a high intensity sound of the right pitch, timbre, and volume and, associated with good stuff, such as drippy meat, triggers reactions in the amygdala (sp?), a limbic portion of the brain. The dog doesn't have to understand portuguese or english. The click, once associated with a good thing, triggers a "joy" reflex. As was mentioned, and I've said it before, too, how you say something matters as much as what you said, normally. You can say good boy 4 times and you will say it for different ways, with the greatest difference being on the last repetition because humans change inflection to mark the end of a statement. But the sound of the click does not depend on emotion, variables within the human voice, as well as human voice cadence. It is always the same and because it always the same, it provides a direct link to the dog's brain to signal the desired path.

    I valued Parsons' article. She was learning to click for the calm split seconds between barks. The dog had to take a breath, she would click at that exact instant. After a while, the dog spent more time breathing than barking. Trained the dog to turn around. This helped calmed the dog because when you can't see what you think is a threat, there is nothing to be threatened by.