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    • Gold Top Dog

    Need Help

     

    I have 3 Dogue de Bordeaux (aka French Mastiffs). I have 2 females and 1 male.

    Recently my older female (almost 4yrs, unaltered) has become getting aggressive with my younger female (2 yrs, altered) and I don't know why. My older female seems to be getting food aggressive with my younger female. (Note: my older female is not acting aggressive toward my 10mo old male pup whatsoeve which I know males/females tend to get along better, but its odd that the food aggression is only toward my other female.)

    My mom was in the hospital for about a month and the problem didn't start until she came home. Maybe this has something to do with it? There generally aren't any issues unless my mom is around.  It is very confusing/frustrating/upsetting because they've never had any problems and now they have gotten into 2 fights. My younger female was brought in as a pup so she has grown up with my older female.

    I had planned to possibly breed my female with another male that I had, but I lost him in Jan. and I'm on the fence about it now. However, I am totally for having her spayed if it will solve the problem. I spoke to my vet about it He feels that spaying her now is a bit drastic at this point, especially if it is a behavior problem. He thinks she may be getting ready to cycle and that she is hormonal right now.

    Also, prior to yesterday they had been free fed their entire lives out of one bowl (they took turns...but would refuse to eat out of separate bowls unless I mixed something to the dog food). I have stopped the free feeding in an attempt to cut down on the problem, even though it was never a problem in the past.

     Any suggestions/ideas/help would be greatly appreciated.

     

    • Gold Top Dog

     I agree, if this is outta no where, with your vet. Hormonal, now how that's NOT going to be fixed with a spay... I'm not sure.  Doesn't make sense.

     But if it coincided with your ill parent coming home, it could be upset in the house. Maybe some changes, or smells that are causing it.  But if she's only doing this to the female, I tend to think it's a hormone thing.  How does the younger female reply?  Has she gone through any changes?

     I certainly hope that things get figured out for you.
     

    • Gold Top Dog

    I'm not really sure why my vet doesn't think spaying is the answer. When I suggested it, he didn't think this was the route to go at this point. I think he thinks that it could still be behavioral, and that spaying wouldn't correct it anyway.

     But I am leaning toward hormonal/my mom coming home. Maybe some combination of the 2. There were no issues while my mom was away. My younger female will fight back if my older one attacks her, but if my older female postures then she will act submissive and generally tries to move away from her.

     Thanks for your response.

    • Gold Top Dog

     The younger female is reaching the age of social maturity, and this is when dogs try to figure out just where they fit in the social structure.  So, my guess is that has something to do with this.  If you are not a hobby breeder, then you should probably have the females spayed anyway to prevent accidental litters.  But, the vet is probably aware that, while neutering does tend to reduce dog to dog aggression in males, it often has little effect with females.  If any dog is drawing blood on another, you should contact a qualified behaviorist in your area for help.

    • Gold Top Dog

    No blood has been drawn. I keep a very close eye on them and stop any squabbles immediately. If any posturing starts, that is squashed as well.

     My 2yr old female has not shown any signs of whatsoever of trying to climb the social ladder. She has been spayed since she was a little over a year.

    Even this behavior is odd for my older female as she has never been overly showing about asserting her dominance. They've all coexisted very peacefully up to this point, though the heirarchy can be seen.

    It just seems strange that the issues seem to have started since my mom returned from the hosptial.

    • Gold Top Dog
    Was your mom with you BEFORE the hospital? If not, having a new person in the home can upset the balance. Or is there any chance that she could be guarding her if she's frail? Also depending on the problem with your mom, some dogs are incredibly sensitive to medical conditions and moods, if that has affected the mood in your home (sadness, greif, stress, etc) she can very easily pick up on that. If she is seriously ill that can change the smell in the house, too and can really affect a sensitive dog.

    I think that's a big "coincidence" on timing, I've heard of dogs becoming upset near ill (serious, not just your common cold) people (meaning nervous and generally not themselves). Maybe that does have something to do with it.

    I say if you're thinking about spaying her anyway, may as well try that and see if it helps? Also, I second Anne and recommend spaying just for the reason of preventing accidental litters.

    To treat the symptoms you may wanna feed them and treat them in their crates until you can get to the bottom of it, if you can't fix it at least you can prevent it. Don't feel badly about this it's very common. I have to feed my dogs in their crates and i'm careful to supervise with treats and chews and sometimes put them in their crates even then. I have a new puppy and an older dog... and this has helped immeasurably. I've also initiated play and played WITH them all together, this has helped alleviate tension as well. They now play regularly and we've cut back on the squabbles.

    I wish it could be easy. ... but, sometimes things happen as they get older and grouchier (don't we all!)) Good luck, wish I knew what to do to help.