Crate and outside??

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    Crate and outside??

    I have a 5 month old toy schnoodle, she has a crate i put her in when i am not home and at night, i have a standard schnoodle also listens very good as to be one of the smartest dogs i ever had, she is 1 yr and 4 months.... Anyways my toy schnoodle will go to the bathroom in her crate at night she will pee or poop... i thought this isnt normal for a dog to do and it isnt a huge crate that she has tons of room.. i have to wash her almost every morning... when she wakes up she goes right outside and when she is done eating she will go outside.... shell go the bathroom outside and some how in her little body she still will go in her house i dont know where she gets all this from when she is so small haha, she is to small to go DOWN the steps... an ideas of what i can do im thinking of starting to chair her outside for most of the day she leading me to no choice id hate to do this.... Unless she has a sickness?
    • Gold Top Dog
    A Schnoodel? Is this a joke? Isnt that one of those designer dogs that are basically a mutt but they charge a arm and a leg for? Ha ha, we havnt had a jokster on here in a while, good one....a schnoodle!
    • Gold Top Dog
    Why not offer the person some real advice versus ridiculing them for having a designer breed. Jack/Chi's are designer breeds and guess what? I ADOPTED MINE from an animal rescue not even knowing what breed he was. Geez
    • Gold Top Dog
    I wasnt ridiculing him, we have a member who likes to joke around about "designer dogs", its a insdie joke, sorry!
    • Gold Top Dog
    At 5 mos she should be able to hold it in the crate overnight. I would make sure she is being fed on a schedule and dont give her water after like 7 pm. Also, make sure she gets lots of excercise before bed so she is tuckered out. And, take her out literally RIGHT before you go to bed. My 5 month old holds it all night now...and I did all of this. If you have to, move her crate next to your bed so if she wakes up and whimpers....you can take her out in the night.
    • Gold Top Dog
    To the original poster - your first dog spoiled you [:)]. Some pups are harder to housetrain than others.
     
    You're right, a 5 month old should be able to hold it through the night without soiling the crate. When is her last meal at night? When is her last potty break at night? And when do you take her out in the morning? How often does she urinate during the day? If she's peeing a multiple times within an hour or two, at her age, she may have a urinary tract infection and you'd want to get that checked out at the vet. However, providing she doesn't have diarrhea she shouldn't have to poop in her crate at night and that's more likely either a scheduling or a training problem. Be aware that if you got your puppy from a pet store or not-so-good breeder, she may have had to spend her first few months eliminating in her crate and now she won't know to keep it clean - if that's the case, you might have to abandon the crate idea until she is housetrained and knows to go outside.
    • Gold Top Dog
    My first question regarding your dog is this: Was she taken away from her littermates and her dam prior to 6 weeks?

    Secondly, while it is possible that she could hold it all night long, I go by the puppy rule...no more than one hour per month.  The human loses lots of sleep this way, but it is pretty effective at getting the dog to eliminate outside of the den.  Take away food and water 1 hour prior to bedtime, ensure she gets some exercise and then into the crate.  Set your alarm for about 5 hours, take her out to potty...lots of rewards for going outside, lots of praise.  Into the crate she goes, into the bed the human goes.

    It sounds like a lot of work, and it is.  I did something very similar for 8 months with Xerxes, and his breed does NOT like to eliminate in the den.
    • Gold Top Dog
    you have to remember some of the toy dogs are not able to hold it as long.  that being said are you able to confine your pup to a small area with either a wee pad or a litterbox to use when she wakes up during the night so she is not using her crate.  it may help you out a lot.
    • Gold Top Dog
    wow this forum may not be the place for me.  i am such an advocate for trying to educate the general public on designer dogs... but being rude even as a joke is not called for imo.  the op posted for advice not a slap of the hands...
     
    ORIGINAL: sheprano

    A Schnoodel? Is this a joke? Isnt that one of those designer dogs that are basically a mutt but they charge a arm and a leg for? Ha ha, we havnt had a jokster on here in a while, good one....a schnoodle!
    • Gold Top Dog
    Darla, your Afgan is simply stunning!  Zoey is cute too, but I could pour Mia over my ice cream, she's so luscious . . .

    Ryanb, was your new toy pup whelped in the house or in a situation where mama dog could encourage proper potty habits?  Sometimes it is more difficult to potty train a pup who left mama too soon, or was raised in a situation where it wasn't possible to maintain a clean whelping area.  this would be especially true for a toy breed where the pup was too small to climb out of the box.

    For whatever reason, you will have to take over  mama's job and retrain proper cleanliness habits.  Pups need to eliminate after eating, drinking, sleeping, playing, and even just resting.  They also need to go, regardless of activity, about every two to three hours, for the next month.  The actual formula for how long they can hold it, is one hour for every month they are old, plus one hour.
    • Gold Top Dog
    edited due to a pm I received