Domminant Behavior

    • Gold Top Dog

    Domminant Behavior

    When does this behavior stop? I am assuming it is a stage, right?

    She is 7 months now, and still blocks Abby our 5 yr mix (Abby is small enough to stand under Freida pretty much), but I will find Freida standing over her. I usually call her to come to me, just to get her away from Abby. Abby, does nothing, she has accepted that Freida is the bigger dog, has never put up a fight. (It is like she doesn't care.)

    They get along pretty good, better than they use to, I catch them playing with each, playful growling and prancing at each other. It is almost like Freida knows she is bigger and will sorta lay down to play with Abby. 

    Freidat still has to have most toys, usually takes them.  Do I have to just continue to bit my tongue and leave them be.  I just think Fredia will never get an A in the manners department!

    • Gold Top Dog

     It sounds like normal dog etiquette, you did not mention any fighting.  We can't apply human manners to dogs, not going to happen.  As long as they get along, just accept it, and be happy they are not fighting!

     

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    Freedom

     It sounds like normal dog etiquette, you did not mention any fighting.  We can't apply human manners to dogs, not going to happen.  As long as they get along, just accept it, and be happy they are not fighting!

     

    I agree.  If there's no aggression, don't worry about it.  Of course Freida knows she's bigger, and in the dog world size does matter, though not in every case.  Stealing toys is normal too.  If the dogs aren't fighting over them, don't worry about it.  We often feel sorry for an older, smaller dog who seems to be bullied by a new younger dog.  If the dogs are ok with the relationship you should relax and let them be.  Unless you see something that is causing distress to your older dog, I wouldn't do anything.

    • Gold Top Dog

    I would do something about it, even if there is no aggression i would not allowed one of my dogs to "bully" the other. Others would not do anything about it but i would. Accepting something just because there is not aggression does not make it right even if it's natural. I dont think you would allow that behavior if it was coming for another owner's dog

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    I would interfere if the other dog were in distress whether it was mental or physical distress.  The OP isn't describing the interactions that way. 

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    JackieG

    I would interfere if the other dog were in distress whether it was mental or physical distress.  The OP isn't describing the interactions that way. 

     

    Mydogs
    I will find Freida standing over her.

     

    There's your mental distress right there, and i dont wait until there is a physical confrontation to do something "proactive vs reactive"

     

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    espencer

    JackieG

    I would interfere if the other dog were in distress whether it was mental or physical distress.  The OP isn't describing the interactions that way. 

     

    Mydogs
    I will find Freida standing over her.

     

    There's your mental distress right there, and i dont wait until there is a physical confrontation to do something "proactive vs reactive"

     

      I guess you don't allow dogs any leeway in their interactions and at the slightest bit of normal dog interaction that isn't 100% playful and happy go lucky, you call a halt?  Dogs can find it hard to form normal dog/dog relationships with all that human interference.  Among humans we have the belief that we're all created equal and all should be treated as equals but that's not normal in the dog world.  I even let my dogs have minor spats that involve some snarls and posturing.  I don't try and control my dogs to the point of never letting them be dogs.  I am experienced enough to recognize when I need to interfere.  I acknowledge that many people aren't experienced enough to judge but what the OP has described sounds like normal behavior between a young dominant dog and an older submissive dog. 

    Nice to see you posting again.  We need some healthy discussions and debate around here. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    Dogs are pretty good at expressing their feelings from far away, ears, tail, posturing, etc. are good indicators of what they want without having to be standing over each other.

    This puppy is 7 months old and is trying to see how much he can stretch the rules, once he turns 2 or 3 years old he will have the confidence of maybe doing something else besides that, the older dog then will be 7 or 8 years old. How do you know the puppy wont take it too far when he is 3? How do you know the old dog wont be too annoyed to put up with that at his age?

    Sure, in the normal dog world there are fights and there is blood, that's when the dogs get the advice of separation forever, rehoming, PTS, etc.

    You can allow the puppy to posture whatever she wants and the older dog still has the choice of turn the other way, walk away, ignore. They still will be dogs. Once the puppy stands over the older dog then the choices change and the owner might not like them.

    How do you know these dogs will be like yours that wont get to the point of a fight later? how do you know these dogs wont actually will be different than yours and actually start fighting because nothing was done?

    Once we are able to predict the future probably then we can tell the OP to relax.

    The SAFEST way to handle this is: puppy must respect personal space, period. You will ensure either way that this will not escalate in the future.

    • Gold Top Dog

     There are many opinions, theories and discussions on what is normal dog behaviour. As dog owners we spend a lot of time trying to decipher their actions and speculate on their intentions. At the end of the day is doesn't matter so much what is 'normal' but what is acceptable. For instance, it is quite normal for dogs to lick you but if this behaviour is not acceptable to you, there is nothing wrong or harmful in not allowing it. If you don't like your dog standing over another - be it normal or otherwise - then it becomes unacceptable and you should not allow it either. JMHO.