She's barking - again!

    • Silver

    She's barking - again!

    Oh, I hope someone can give me a process that sticks!  Maya is a Pyrenees cross.  I know that they have been bred to bark for a living, and I don't mind a warning bark or two, but Maya goes right over the top.  We have a bike path behind our house, and Maya is triggered by dogs walking by.  She races the fence and barks like mad and hops with her front feet on top of the fence.  Maya is a BIG dog, and though she is as friendly as the day is long, she scares people when she does this.  I don't blame them - I'd be nervous too.

     The thing is, is that we have worked on this and worked on this!  We'll target the behavior for a month or so and Maya will get really good at ignoring the dogs or at least coming to me when I call her. All I've had to do for the past few months is tap on the window and Maya will come racing up the deck to get a treat and then back out again without barking.  Maya will be really good for about three months and the bang, we're right back where we started from.   Right now we're back where we started from.

     Our process has been to do lots of obedience work in the back yard so that she sees this as a place where she needs to listen.  She'll go out only with me and with a leash on and if a dog goes by and she starts to race to the fence I'll step in front of her and say 'Uh uh'  and body block her from the fence.  She gets treats as soon as she sits and looks at me.  From there we move to a long line and she gets a leash flutter to remind her not to go to the fence and she gets treats as soon as she comes back to me.  Eventually we get to where I can call her from the back door.  Great process, but it takes a while and as I said, we have to repeat it every three months or so.

    I'll admit that I'm starting to get frustrated.  I hate getting mad at my dog.  We have a great relationship, and she is such a good dog.  This issue just spoils it. Here is a link to a u-tube clip of Maya last summer in another bad patch.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPnOoPq1iCw

    Does anyone have any suggestions?

      

     

    • Gold Top Dog

     As soon as she starts barking and fence running, bring her in. Everytime she does this it just reinforces her behavior.

    • Gold Top Dog

    She looked quite frustrated.  How is she allowed to release energy?  What kind of strenuous exercise is she getting?  Also, just by viewing this video...it doesn't appear as though she listens to you.  Have you had help from a trainer...one that will teach you how to get her to focus on you. 

    She is a big dog...would you say you have control?  I'd suggest until you have a solid recall and leave it...your only recourse in this situation is to distract her, remove her from the area.  But, you will need to get her focused on something else in order for her brain to distract  In other words, don't just remove her...get her on to something else...play ball with her, do some OB work, etc.  Hopefully, some of the more experienced and the trainers will have some suggestions for you.  The training really doesn't stop though...we are teaching them constantly, every day.

    Good luck!

    • Silver

     Maya gets quite a bit of exercise.  On my days off we go for at least 2 2 one hour walks a day (sorry), and a run through a dog park or an outing in an urban area where we practice obedience.  When I'm work she goes to a day care during the day and we go for a walk at night.

    The control thing is one of the things that frustrates me.  This is the same dog that just last week I walked at heal off leash through a dog park because the other dogs were bullying and targeting other dogs and I didn't want Maya practicing that.  For some reason in the back yard all of this training periodically goes out the window for her.  I don't understand how I can have such control most of the time but when she decides she is going to run the fence all bets are off.

    • Gold Top Dog

    The fence is a distraction that is just too much for her to ignore.  Have you gotten help from a trainer?

    • Gold Top Dog

    I've got no real advise other than perhaps you should be sticking with the training that was working.  Sounds like you are letting up too soon and maybe should be sticking with it longer. 

    There's plenty of folk here who'll give you great advise.  Good luck.

    • Silver

     CoBuHe, yes it was a trainer that came out to the house that came up with the process I described above.  The video was taken just before she came to show her Maya's worst.  It does work, it just doesn't seem to be sticking in the long term and we keep having to go back to the beginning. 

    Maybe you're right, Johnny andTessy, I do ease off once she's at the point where I can call her from the house.  I am wondering though if there is something that I can be doing that might be more effective in the long term.

    OBTW - Maya's exercise should have read 2 one hour walks per day for a total of 2 hours a day.  That's what you get for thinking about dog training so late at night!Stick out tongue

    • Gold Top Dog

    M & J
    On my days off we go for at least 2 one hour walks a day

     

    Ok, so exactly how many days a week does this take place? I ask this because i have the weekends off but if i was waiting until the weekend to exercise my Malamute then for sure I would be having him acting like yours during the week.

    Based on the video I would say that he wants to join the excitement of playing with another dog and run along with joggers and bicycles. He indeed seems and sounds frustrated that he was not allowed to join.

    Most dogs need DAILY exercise to burn down the energy and frustration of staying inside the house the whole day. Correct him for this behavior will not solve the problem. It seems that he needs to get out every day

    • Silver

     Maya does go out every day.  Sat. Sun. and Mon are my days off and we go for two walks plus either a dog park run or an intensive obedience session somewhere with distractions.  Tues. to Fri.  Maya goes to day care where she plays all day and then I take her for a one hour walk in the evening.  Some people say that I give her too much stimulation and she would benefit from more chill time.  I don't agree with that, and that is why she goes to day care when I work rather than keeping her at home.  The most that she's ever cooped up in the house is the occasional time when we go out to visit family for a few hours in the evening, and I make sure that she has had some extra exercise before we go.

    • Bronze

    It sounds to me like you are making progress... the work just never ends! You might try breaking up her fence-running path with obstacles. If she can't have a clear run along the fence, it might reduce the her fun/increase your control over the situation.

    • Gold Top Dog

     You are unlikely to ever get a dog that has a view of passersby, and is outside alone, to stop barking at them.  She is hardwired to sound the alarm if she spots intruders, and she is spotting them every time someone walks by.  A longer term solution is to place her pen where she can't see them, or put a solid fence, like a stockade, on the side where they pass by.  If you are outside with her, then putting barking on stimulus control is a good idea.  In other words, teach her to bark on cue, then to quiet on cue, then simply don't cue her to bark and only cue "quiet."  Here's a good video of how stimulus control works with another behavior (jumping): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c877MVeZkyE