dog killing cat

    • Bronze

    dog killing cat

    My honey's 21 year old son Mik has a shepherd/lab mix that attacks the family's cats.  Today we had to have one of them put down due to the extent of the injury.  This is the fourth time he has attacked one of the house cats in a year.  They all live in the house.  His aggression seems out of the blue.  Mik doesn't want to tie him out in the yard.  There are more than 10 cats in and out of the house.  Any advise would be appreciated.
    • Gold Top Dog
    His aggression isn't "out of the blue".  Shepherds are often predatory toward cats, as are Huskies.  If you own these breeds, or mixes of these breeds, this can happen.  My advice is to get cat condos for the kitties and give them their own space.  It isn't fair to keep them living in mortal fear of this dog, nor is it fair to banish a dog to the outdoors - predatory dogs are made worse by that type of "management".  Sorry, but there's no easy answer.  Separating them is the only thing that will keep the cats safe.  I'm amazed that you didn't do that the first time there was blood drawn - unfortunately, now you have a dead cat.
    • Gold Top Dog
    My friend has 2 cats that are quite safe with her dogs(2 huskies, 1 GSD) inside the house.  Outside is a different matter.  For some reason they are fair game out there.  I second Anne's advice and give the cats thier own space in the house where they can be safe.  And don't let the dog loose when there is a loose cat outside.

    • Gold Top Dog
    I have 7 cats in my house with a pittie and a husky/shepard puppy. The cats have a room upstairs in the house that is gated off that they can get away in and during the day when I am at work they get the added bonus that I gate off the upstairs completely so they have the whole upstairs to themselves. They also have areas on top the kitchen cabinets to lay and survey the house. I keep the taller pieces of furniture clear from knick knacks to give them a place to jump too if need be.

    My dogs are not aggressive with the cats, but they do want to play hard and the cats don't. Cats outside my home are another story though and I wouldn't trust Boss not to hurt one so I don't ever let him out when I see a stray in our yard.

    Personally, I wouldn't make my cats live in mortal fear like that their whole lives, especially not to the point blood is shed or death becomes a factor. Poor things. I watched one of my cats get killed by a neighborhood dog once, there was nothing I could do to stop it and I will never in my life forget that cats cry, it's been almost 10 years and I can still hear it plain as day.
     
    Rest in peace little kitty. Run free at the bridge. [sm=angel.gif]
    • Gold Top Dog
    I agree with everyone else. The cats need a safe haven....I type this as I have one cat on the computer table, one on my lap, on the back of the sofa and my GSD pup is laying on the sofa.
    I'm not sure how Molly would be with a cat outside (my cats are inside only) but probably like everyone else's dogs I'm sure.
    The cats shouldn't have to live in fear of their lives over a dog they share their home with. It's not fair to them.
    My cats can go into the basement (baby gate up there) or into the computer room where the litterboxes are as a baby gate is there too and Molly is only allowed in here with adult supervision.
    • Puppy
    Hi
     
    You should seperate them however you can also set up an aversive type technique for every time the dog looks at the cats. This how to do it. Remeber it is better to get another person other the the oeners to set this for you.
     
    Noise Aversion Therapy.
     
    Quite often a simple noise aversion technique can stop many unwanted and irritating behaviours such as jumping up aggression, barking and predatory chasing ie cats or other dogs.  
     
    Firstly, you must make your noise aversive device, the best I have found is the small plastic bottles we get water or lemonade in, if they have had something sticky in them wash them out and dry first. Then a third fill them with either small pebbles, coins, dried peas, or anything that really makes a good rattle, screw the top back on, I have found that shingle makes the best sound.  
     
    It is better if the owners do not set the bottle, as you do not want the dog associating them with the noise, so the person setting the bottle should follow these instructions. Get some tasty treats cheese, puffed jerky, dried liver or frankfurters, I normally use cheese. Get the dog to sit and put a treat on the floor tight in front of the dog and say "Good"  “Take It” repeat this five times, then on the sixth time do exactly the same but this time don't say the "Good" or "Take It". Pretend to put the treat down (The dog will think a treat is there and when it cannot find it will get a feeling of disappointment) as the dogs looks for the treat shake the bottle slightly. Repeat this number of times, gradually increasing the intensity culminating in throwing it next to the dog.  This should be a gradual build-up.  
     
     Some dogs will stop or jump back in surprise at the first mild rattle this is called a “startle response”. Quickly scoop up the bottle and ignore the dog for several seconds pretending it had nothing to do with you. Do not worry if the dog is not startled at first.  
       
     You must sympathise with the dog if it shows a response. You may find that after a couple of shakes the dog will not go to the food and may back away. If that happens call the dog to you, sympathise and give a treat, this will confirm the noise is not pleasant, which is what you want to happen. It is important that the dog should come back to you for sympathy and comfort.  
     
    Repeat this until the dog will not go to the food even when you put it down. When that happens, pick up the food and give it to the dog, praising it. The idea is not to make the dog refuse to eat off the floor, but to provide a focused sound aversive for the dog during this exercise.  
     
    Once the dog has learned that the shaker sound means "STOP" you can use it to stop the unwanted behaviour. You need to try to read your dog's body language and to use the shaker if possible BEFORE the dog gets well into the unwanted behaviour. Such as jumping up, or In the case of aggression, rattle the shaker as soon as your dog begins to stiffen or tense up, for instance just before cat chasing or interdog aggression
     
    After a while, you will only need a slight shake to stop the dog in its tracks. Be sure to work on obedience and basic training and commands as well, this gives the dog an alternate behaviour that you can then reward. On the one hand, you are using a correction (the sound) and on the other hand, you are substituting a new behaviour. Some dogs are not noise aversive even using this technique.  
     
    If that is the case then alternative measures may be required. You can use training discs made by Mikki in place of the bottle, they are easier to carry but not so effective.
     
    Stan Rawlinson (Doglistener)
    ( Please do not copy or reproduce without permission)

     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    I absolutely agree with having a separate "safe" place for the cats.  Mine have half of our basement so that they can come and go at will.  We didn't use baby gates, we BUILT half doors for them so that there is no chance of anyone bothering them.  The door is mounted high enough for the cats to slip under, but not the dogs.  However, one day I "misplaced" one of the young pups...must have slipped in the other side of the basement when I went in to do laundry.....and found him curled up on the loveseat with all four cats.  [:D]
    • Gold Top Dog
    often cat-attacks are triggered by the sight of the cat running. Dog's predatory instincts kick in, and chomp, bye-bye cat. Even if the dog seemed fine with the cat before that happened.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Aversives only work if the desired object is worth less than the pain the dog knows he will endure to get it.  At that point, trainers and owners must decide if it is worth it to subject a dog to that, or if it is better to manage the situation with separation. 
    Also, when you use aversives, there is some risk for unexpected learning, or for redirected aggression.