Tricks are NOT Useless

    • Gold Top Dog

    Tricks are NOT Useless

    Sometimes, people get the mistaken idea that teaching your dog tricks is not "serious" training.  For some reason, they think that "heel" is serious, but "put your toy away" really isn't.  However, I like to think of training a trick the same way I think of training any other behavior.  There's an antecedent, behavior and consequence, and the process of operant conditioning is the same whether you teach the dog to sneeze on cue or to sit and stay.  Skill as a trainer is very much enhanced by practicing the process, so how can practice be bad, even if you are training tricks?  Another upside to having your dog know some cute tricks is that you may someday want to use them to make other people feel good, such as in therapy dog work.  A few cute tricks can also make a large, scary looking dog more palatable to the general public.  I wish more Pit Bull owners would teach their dogs a little trick routine!  I do have a colleague who taught her Rottweiler to "wave goodbye" as people would walk to the other side of the street to avoid the "big scary dog."  I imagine that Rottie didn't look half as scary while she was doing that on command.  If you think of it, one of the biggest fears people have is that you aren't in control of your big scary dog.  To them, tricks can mean that you have trained *above* the normal level of obedience, not below, and that you are, indeed, in charge of what your dog does.  Better than being faced with a large dog pulling toward them on its leash, or even heeling (which can look intimidating, believe it or not, as if you might suddenly be able to sic the dog on them).  A trick is so much more fun, thus less intimidating.  Of course, if you are one of those macho types who actually got your dog because you wanted to stroke your own ego about the ability to handle a Cujo type, then you wouldn't want a dog that does anything cute, I suppose...

    One of the easiest ways to teach your dog to do fun things for public consumption is to "capture" behaviors that he does naturally.  This is a little video of my friend Pam Johnson training her pup to scratch on cue.  What makes it fun is the eventual addition of a funny cue, "Isabelle, do you have fleas?"  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dmEbezlpGo&feature=autofb

    Once you learn to "capture" behavior, you can use it to capture anything the dog does that you would like to put on cue - what a useful skill that is!!!  Even with beginners, I've used it to help greyhound owners capture "down" so that they don't need to manhandle a dog that rarely lies down, except on the couch;-)  Once the dog understands the cue, it's much easier to transfer the skill so that he will "down" on a mat or a floor instead of just on the couch, and be able to have him do it when asked.

    • Puppy

    Thank you so much for using my video! Tricks are such a great way for the dog and owner to bond and connect!  What a nice, well written article! 

    Thank you,

    Pamela Johnson (pamelamarxsen)

    www.pamsdogacademy.com

    http://ptfordogs.blogspot.com

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    I love teaching tricks. Some of them can be really challenging, so there's a great sense of achievement when you both get it right. I recently taught Erik to walk backwards in a circle around my leg. I think it's an extremely cool trick, and it took Erik several days to learn it, but it also taught him that walking backwards is a behaviour that can be used in other contexts, and then he started heeling backwards pretty much on his own. What a clever cookie! Great fun and good for developing my clicker skills and Erik's learning skills and creativity. 

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    pamelamarxsen

    Thank you so much for using my video! Tricks are such a great way for the dog and owner to bond and connect!  What a nice, well written article! 

    Thank you,

    Pamela Johnson (pamelamarxsen)

    www.pamsdogacademy.com

    http://ptfordogs.blogspot.com

     

    You're welcome, Pam.  Between you and Emily Larlham, I have even less incentive than ever to play actress in this fat old bod;-)  Maybe one of these days... I actually did buy a Flip, but it's still in the box.

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    One of the nice things about tricks is that they can make nice alternative/incompatible behaviors to problems. If you have a dog who jumps on people, sure, you could teach him to sit, and instruct the people only to pay attention to him then. You could however teach him to wave to people. Not a person yet hasn't absolutely gushed over my little waving dog.

    All the dogs we have started out reluctant to lay down, the puppy being the worst of them. I thought the other two dogs were bad, but I was able to lure and shape it with them in about five trials. I got no where in 10 trials on the puppy, so we're going the route of capturing it. My friend wants her dog to heel, but only when he's wearing a backpack. So, I gave her instructions on how to capture that.

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     I have nothing against tricks as my past two dogs have an abundance of them however, I don't think its a necessity for bonding or building a relationship. I know of several agility, herding, hunting teams.. that don't tricks at all but have a marvelous bond.

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    jdata

     I have nothing against tricks as my past two dogs have an abundance of them however, I don't think its a necessity for bonding or building a relationship. I know of several agility, herding, hunting teams.. that don't tricks at all but have a marvelous bond.

     

    That's really my point.  No, you don't need tricks to form a bond with a dog (I don't recall ever saying that you did) but it's yet another way to do so.  So is agility, herding, and hunting with your dog.  In my opinion, any activity you share with your dog that is done in a spirit of mutual cooperation and respect is a great bonding activity.  Anything from disc to freestyle to scent work to just hiking in the woods:-))

    • Puppy

     I hear you but I still can't help but feel somewhat guilty trying to get her to do tricks for my pleasure, rather than just

    enjoying her for being her.  

     

     

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    cosmomac

     I hear you but I still can't help but feel somewhat guilty trying to get her to do tricks for my pleasure, rather than just

    enjoying her for being her.  

     

     

     

    But that assumes that the dog takes no pleasure in doing tricks.  I find that my dogs love it - because it means plenty of rewards and fun with me.  That's not to say that I don't enjoy them for being them as you put it, but just enjoying them without giving them any of the skills they need to be safe would not be a good thing either.  So, I teach them to "stay" and to "come."  To my dogs, a behavior is a behavior is a behavior.  They don't think that "come" is relevant but "spin" isn't.  They think both are important - because doing either behavior on cue might produce chicken or liver;-))

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    I agree with Anne and honestly I think tricks really are important even beyond doing other activities.  I train tricks so that the dog learns to be more proactive or operant or whatever word you like to use.  A lot of the training I do is more instinctual and the methods are build around the dog's drive and temperament make-up, whereas when training tricks I do mostly freeshaping, shaping with some luring (try to avoid too much or too long since that goes against my goal for training tricks), and backchaining if it is a complex behavior.  It's less about utilizing the dog's temperament and more about encouraging the dog to think.  For me, tricks are a nice way to have fun and use learning in different ways than what we do in Schutzhund, herding, dock diving, etc.  I think that they do serve a purpose of their own.

    ETA:  I call it a "trick" when it's a cute behavior that doesn't necessarily have any purpose as far as household obedience, or any sort of competition or work.  For example, speak, whisper, crawl, twist, bang (drop dead), rollover, beg/sit pretty, weave through my legs, jump into my arms, touch the button....  For me the value of the trick is the process of training it - what and how the dog is learning - rather than the outcome being useful other than entertaining people.

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    spiritdogs

    Once you learn to "capture" behavior, you can use it to capture anything the dog does that you would like to put on cue - what a useful skill that is!!!  Even with beginners, I've used it to help greyhound owners capture "down" so that they don't need to manhandle a dog that rarely lies down, except on the couch;-)  Once the dog understands the cue, it's much easier to transfer the skill so that he will "down" on a mat or a floor instead of just on the couch, and be able to have him do it when asked.

     

    While all my dogs are trained (sit, stay, heel) but Lexi is the only one who does tricks, it always amazes me how fast she catches on.  She enjoys learning new things and loves the attention she gets from it. The capture method works well for her, she easily associates words with actions, she'll "watch the fish" or "go see whats on T.V" on cue. I'm going to try the scratch on command idea, haha too cute.

     

     

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    The way I work with dogs, to teach anything from simple behaviours like "sit" to complex agility sequences or a solid "stay" is to think of it all as "tricks"!! I  teach a sit, or a down, or a swing position like I would teach a high five, a broad jump, or to walk on a treadmill. In other words, the dog enjoys doing all of it and they don't really distinguish between "tricks" and "non-tricks". I could as easily ask the dogs to sit and wait at the door as I could ask for a high five and a play bow, and they would do them all with glee.

    "Tricks" aren't necessarily important for a good relationship, but they can enhance it, keep your dog young in mind (older dogs who learn new things have greater benefits in quality of life and fending off age-related cognitive problems over dogs who do not learn throughout life -  much like in humans), and give your dog a great outlet for working off excess energy. As long as your dog is having as much fun as you are, there is no harm at all in teaching whatever tricks your brain can muster!

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    I agree, Anne. The behavior may be called a trick just because it's not a Schutzhund move but that doesn't make the fact that the dog is listening to you any less important. One trick I never really trained but is fun to watch is "get the Kong." Shadow will go and get it, even if a treat is not involved. It's like his lucky talisman.

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    I have two dogs that are smarter than I am.  Tricks are a necessity for them to keep their minds busy.  My daughter is the trick trainer though.  After having Keisha for a week, she had already taught her to sit, shake, and highfive in that order.  She also taught Chaos to play catch, she throws the ball, Chaos hits it back with either her nose or her front paws.  And she also taught my lab to put away her toys, which is no longer useful as Hershay doesn't play with anything anymore.  I think tricks are just as important as training basic comands.