True Service Dogs?

    • Gold Top Dog

    True Service Dogs?

    I came across this column in the paper today. Thought some of you who have or train service dogs might find it interesting. It was in response to a fellow who wanted to train a huskey-malamute X as a sevice dog.

     I have to say I think your question is moot. Unless the service you're looking to provide is eating fish and pulling a sled I'd say you're looking at the wrong breed.

    A husky or malamute are to the service dog world what a golden retriever is to the sled dog world. Your current dog (husky/malamute/lab) is most likely drawing on the Lab genes to perform its duties. I don't know of any true service dog training organization that even considers huskies or malamutes.

    Lately it seems if you can sew up a vest and it says service dog nobody says anything. I was at a conference this year where a 'service' dog spent the weekend rifiling through people's bags, agitating other dogs, wandering away at every opportunity. This was not an isolated experience. I've seen biting, growling, snapping, running away etc., by 'service' dogs. I'm seeing more and more dogs without the temperament or the training of a legitimate service dog being called service dogs by people unqualified to say so, let alone select and train one.

    The whole service animal situation is getting out of hand. I'm not sure where the lines should be drawn and who should do it, but somebody needs to. Generally speaking we're seeing dogs of questionable temperaments 'certified' by ill-qualified dog trainers, rather that approved associations demanding access to places their dog has no place ebing. No one speaks up probably out of fear of having the politically correct crowd twisting, "I don't want an ill-behaved animal in my place of business," to "I hate the disabled," or "I hate animals".

    I don't hate animals or the disabled or disabled animals or disabled people that behave like animals. I do, however, hate the abandonment of common sense particularly when it jeopardizes the legitimacy of true service dogs. A while back I saw a news piece about a woman who insisted proximity to her horse was necessary to maintain her mental equilibrium and she rode it everywhere, even into the grocery store. I don't care if she's riding Mr. Ed. I'd carry her on my back before I'd agree to let her walk a flatulent horse through the vegetable aisle.

    A proper service animal's purpose is to contribute to the health and safety of the owner. However, not at the expense of the general public. Service dog candidates need to be selected by a specialized professional. "many are called, few are chosen" applies. Their obedience training must include a minimum standard that isn't so minimum.

    A service dog should not mean, "I own a dog, I have a need and I've found someone that has trained a few dogs in an unrelated discipline to certify my dog.

    True service dogs are very important and this airy-fairy definition of service aor assistance dog is sooner or later going to reflect poorly on legitimate service dog trainers and owners, if not get someone seriously hurt.

     

    So is that true about breeds like the husky or malamute - no suitable? Is there a lowing of standards when it comes to certifying service dogs?

     

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     I wouldn't say a 'lowering of standards' for TRUE service dogs - but rather (as the writer spoke of) people NEEDING a dog, therefore calling it a service dog (with the dog not actually preforming a service).

    There are three categories for service dogs - Guide Dogs, Hearing Dogs, and Service.Assistance Animals (companion assistance animals).

    The Codes of Federal Regulation for the Americans with Disabilities Act defines "service animal" as "any guide dog, signal dog, or other animal individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability, including, but not limited to, guiding individuals with impaired vision, alerting individuals with impaired hearing to intruders or sounds, providing minimal protection or rescue work, pulling a wheelchair, or fetching dropped items."

    In the US - if a person is legally disabled, and has a "service dog" - the dog is a legal service dog, with or without certification. Dogs do not have to be certified in the US - but they do need training. You cannot stick a vest on a dog, and call it your service dog. Service dogs should/are held to a higher standard for behaving in public. It's because of their training that they are allowed inside places - you cannot take your yappy, ankle biting, dog aggressive, child hating dog into a grocery store just because you want to - it needs to have a purpose. And I see nothing wrong with asking a NON service dog to be removed from a store.

    Standard breeds were labs, goldens and shepherds - but there are boatloads of different breeds, doing different things now. A friend of mine has a rat terrier that is a seizure alert dog. I've seen mixed breeds open doors for their owners, as well as bully breeds. Huskys tend to be very independent - which is maybe what the author was getting at.

    Check out the Delta Society's website - they have a lot of good information.

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     Erica is right - certification is not required for service dogs, although some organizations do offer it. Professional training is not a requirement either - an owner can certainly train their own service animal. However, business owners can certainly ask someone to leave if their service dog is behaving poorly, just as they can ask poorly behaved people to leave.

     There are a wide range of breeds that can/have done service work. Dogs I have seen used by service dog orgs include GSDs, Goldens, Labs, Standard Poodles, various Doodles, smooth collies, Berners, Viszlas, Boxers, Golden-Lab mixes and Papillons for certain wheelchair assistance work. Many are open to considering other breeds if a breeder wants to donate a puppy but tend to want breeds known for being biddable such as herding or supporting breeds, along with some working breeds. I'm sure that there are probably individual people out there who have trained a Northern breed for service work. I have seen a Grey trained for guide work. But the more independent breeds are not common for a reason - they tend to be much, much harder (and take much longer) to train to the degree of relibality in all situations that service dogs need. Hearing dogs and seizure alert dogs are a bit different. They do not require the same degree of training needed for guide or wheelchair assitance dogs so it isn't uncommon to see a wide range of breeds and mixes doing that work.

    • Gold Top Dog

    When I was in university there was a beautiful Siberian Husky (although possibly a mix...but looked pure) that was a wonderful service dog for a young man with some severe special needs. This dog was the epitome of polite, and very well trained. So I don't think that necessarily any "one" breed or a few breeds that should be able to do it.

    I also know through online forums a wonderful lady who has trained her own terriers to be service dogs. She is in a wheelchair and has taught them all the things she needs to make her life more fulfilling. Whether she had them certified or not I don't know, but they are definitely providing a service for her.

    I think we do need to have high standards for our service dogs, as they do need to be very polite and well socialized in public. Thankfully I have never run into any service dogs that were as this author described.

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    My Siberian would make an excellent service dog (in terms of visiting the sick/disabled/elderly/kids). I even looked at getting him certified a couple of years ago but didn't out of my own laziness. I have no doubt he would pass the DELTA test with flying colours - who, btw, where more than happy to "consider" my dog.

    I would question the reputability and knowledge of any trainer who would pass off a dog just because of its breed. Siberians were bred to be working dogs who could also mesh with a family; sleep alongside children and provide good companionship. Sure they are stubborn and more independent than breeds like Goldies and Labs but that doesn't mean they are incapable or have bad temperaments, or can't be trained. My Sibe has a pretty decent amount of drive - he is both very very prey and food driven, which IMO just shows he has tonnes of potential if you know how to harness it. He also has the most wonderful temperament and pretty good nerves. And at the end of the day - how many Goldies and Labs do you see out there doing what they were originally bred to do?

    I get so sick and tired of attitudes of people like the ones who wrote the article in the OP; they clearly have no real experience or knowledge of our breed and clearly don't understand how to get the best out of each dog. At the end of the day; training should be temperament based, not breed based, many trainers seem to forget this.

     

    • Gold Top Dog

    huski
    My Siberian would make an excellent service dog (in terms of visiting the sick/disabled/elderly/kids).

     

     

    That is not a service dog. It's a therapy dog. Whooooole different ballgame.

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    jennie_c_d

    huski
    My Siberian would make an excellent service dog (in terms of visiting the sick/disabled/elderly/kids).

     

     

    That is not a service dog. It's a therapy dog. Whooooole different ballgame.

     

    Sorry if I got confused - I wasn't sure what type of service he was referring to in the article.

    I know people who have assistance dogs who are not typical 'service' breeds, I guess it depends what 'service' the dog is being trained to do. Obviously you wouldn't pick a dog like a Siberian to be a guide dog, just as you wouldn't use a greyhound to do personal protection. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    I don't think any breed could never make a service dog, but I think it's unrealistic not to believe that certain breeds are far more suited to the work.  It takes countless hours and dollars and years of hard work to develop a working service dog, why not stack the deck in favor of success?

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