Purina ProPlan Selects

I just got my dogs a bag of Pro Plan Senior, because when I was at the vet she told me to get Purina One or science diet or iams (senior) for Princess but I didn't get a chance to change Princess' food since she passed away, so I got it for my other dogs today haven't tried it yet got a small bag cost $10 thought i better get a small bag incase they don't eat it. Now Daisy is 11 years old and Lucky is 7 years old Copper is about 4 years old would it be ok for Copper to eat??

Also I don't feed them at any certain time I just fill the bowl up and they eat whenever they want always did that should I change that??

daisyprincess

I just got my dogs a bag of Pro Plan Senior, because when I was at the vet she told me to get Purina One or science diet or iams (senior) for Princess but I didn't get a chance to change Princess' food since she passed away, so I got it for my other dogs today haven't tried it yet got a small bag cost $10 thought i better get a small bag incase they don't eat it. Now Daisy is 11 years old and Lucky is 7 years old Copper is about 4 years old would it be ok for Copper to eat??

Also I don't feed them at any certain time I just fill the bowl up and they eat whenever they want always did that should I change that??

I do agree with the younger dog needing a diffent food content.

I find myself agreeing with Truely and HoundMusic.  I fed PetGuard for a long time and it had the best performance for my dogs of all the foods I've fed (and there have been MANY LOL).  Then you get the people who are all on the holistic bandwagon saying how bad corn and menadione is and I switch, trying to find another food that will work as well for my guys, and here we are, more than a year out from the last time I fed PetGuard. I've tried Solid Gold, California Natural, Nature's Variety, Natural Balance, now ProPlan with my senior and I'm already seeing an improvement in his attitude and stools. 

I ordered a bag of PetGuard and a case of canned beef and I'll be using that hopefully for the long term.  Corn/menadione or not, it has given my dogs the best body condition, coat, and health out of all the other so-called "best" foods out there. 

I tend to do a lot of waivering when it comes to dog foods and second guessing, going for the "better ingredient panel" rather than the actual performance of the food and for now I'm going with performance.

shamrockmommy

 

I find myself agreeing with Truely and HoundMusic.  I fed PetGuard for a long time and it had the best performance for my dogs of all the foods I've fed (and there have been MANY LOL).  Then you get the people who are all on the holistic bandwagon saying how bad corn and menadione is and I switch, trying to find another food that will work as well for my guys, and here we are, more than a year out from the last time I fed PetGuard. I've tried Solid Gold, California Natural, Nature's Variety, Natural Balance, now ProPlan with my senior and I'm already seeing an improvement in his attitude and stools. 

I ordered a bag of PetGuard and a case of canned beef and I'll be using that hopefully for the long term.  Corn/menadione or not, it has given my dogs the best body condition, coat, and health out of all the other so-called "best" foods out there. 

I tend to do a lot of waivering when it comes to dog foods and second guessing, going for the "better ingredient panel" rather than the actual performance of the food and for now I'm going with performance.

There is nothing wrong with whole ground yellow corn in dog food as long as it is not being used to replace meat (you would see it either as the first ingredient or anywhere on the list as corn gluten meal).

don't know what the protein content for your senior formula is, but unless it's at least 24% I wouldn't feed any more than this small bag. Senior dogs need higher (but not too high) protein to maintain muscle mass and younger dogs need different things than senior foods provide.

http://www.proplan.com/products/drySeniorDogFoodProducts.html; This is the senior chicken and rice;

Crude Protein (Min) 28.0%
Crude Fat (Min) 12.0%
Crude Fiber (Max) 3.0%
Moisture (Max) 12.0%
Linoleic Acid (Min) 1.3%
Calcium (Ca) (Min) 1.0%
Phosphorus (P) (Min) 0.8%
Selenium (Se) (Min) 0.30 mg/kg
Vitamin A (Min) 14,000 IU/kg
Vitamin E (Min) 460 IU/kg
Ascorbic Acid* (Min) 70 mg/kg
Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA)* (Min) 0.15%
Eicosapentaenoic Aicd (EPA)* (Min) 0.15%
Glucosamine* (Min) 500 ppm
Glutamine* (Min) 1.0%
Omega-3 Fatty Acids* (Min) 0.4%
Omega-6 Fatty Acids* (Min) 2.0%

daisyprincess

Now Daisy is 11 years old and Lucky is 7 years old Copper is about 4 years old would it be ok for Copper to eat??

   The main difference between the adult and senior dog foods in the ProPlan line is the fat content. Copper may need a food with a little more fat, but you can try the senior food and see if how he does.
 

Pro Plan products have worked for my Labrador and a lot of other Labradors we run into at the park.

But.......

I took it off my rotation list during the recalls.   Why  ?   I did not like their response when I e- mailed about any China ingredients being in it..  This was six months or so ago and the response was we have to.. No choice... I don't trust corn gluten meal from China ...Just my own opinion.

I realize in this World Economy it's hard not buy from China....

 But really... At one time we(USA) fed the world.... What happened ? Has their policy on China ingredients changed ?

jenns

What I don't understand is that if Purina works for your dogs, why bother paying the outrageous price for the selects? I mean, the only difference between regular Pro Plan and selects according to Purina is the quality of the ingredients, yet those who use Purina say ingredients don't matter.  You are paying 50% more for the Selects.  If you don't care about the ingredients than I certainly hope you are seeing a big difference in results between the regular Pro Plan and the Selects for those prices.  If not it seems a waste of money in my opinion.

     No, the Selects & the regular Pro Plan are not the same. The Selects does not contain wheat, whereas the regular formula does. No one here, incliding myself, ever said ingredients don't matter ... what I said is that the digestability & vitamin premix are more important than indivigual ingredients. So instead of saying that corn gluten meal or generic fish meal are dealbreakers, I want to judge the diet by the results, and not base whether I even pick it up off the shelf on whether the ingredient list is politically correct in the dog world. Now, even if my dogs did not have a problem with wheat in their diet, if the Pro Plan Selects gives my 10 dogs tangible results and has my bitches coming back into heat, everyone bulking up with muscle, and gives them plenty of energy in the field, how is that food not worth every red cent I paid for it? It would only be a waste of money if I continued to pay $45 per bag for a food that did not agree with the dogs, if I only fed it because I liked the packaging or the advertising gimmicks used by the company. But when a food is so nutrient dense that a 33lb bag lasts me 2 weeks and the dogs are all well nourished & digesting the food well, how is this a waste? Because it's Purina? 

Kord had his vet visit today, ear infection is bacterial and was caught early and we are treating that. No anticipated problems.

The best news was the vet who has been one of the main vets involved with Kord was most impressed with his condition today. He is a good lean weight, coat is soft, shiny and healthy, left ear was bad, right ear clean and good, teeth great, skin, fair to good, but improving, good muscle tone, great movement overall and no fat. She put him in fantastic condition for his age and with his past issue's. She told me to keep doing whatever it is I am doing. I am sticking with the PPP, I have no reason to switch foods at this time.

The reason I'd recommend that particular food is that I work at a large, chain pet store. I am not allowed to suggest foods or products that we don't carry. Nutro, Blue Buffalo, and Pro Plan Selects are probably about the best of what we've got. Among those, Blue is the obvious choice, BUT some people want a name they trust. 

I used to feed ProPlan until my dogs just stopped eating it so I no longer feed it.  But I just wanted to point out that for those who weren't aware, since the recalls, Purina continues to source ingredients from China.  They apparently have set up quality control teams stationed in China, but still, I see no reason to feed my dogs food that has ingredients from China with everything that has been happening lately when there are plenty of foods out there that don't. 

pudel

I used to feed ProPlan until my dogs just stopped eating it so I no longer feed it.  But I just wanted to point out that for those who weren't aware, since the recalls, Purina continues to source ingredients from China.  They apparently have set up quality control teams stationed in China, but still, I see no reason to feed my dogs food that has ingredients from China with everything that has been happening lately when there are plenty of foods out there that don't. 

where can I find this information, if a company uses ingredients from China?

ingemk

where can I find this information, if a company uses ingredients from China?

Only way is to ask. By e-mail or phone call. Most don't lie...  Some do.

There is one "Darling " of web site forums that says it sources all it's ingredients from USA suppliers.. But in reality I would bet some part of their Vitamin Premix comes from China...   Start doing some googling on Vitamins that are still made in the USA.. 

This is one problem today in the packaging and labels ... Pet Food Companies get away with a lot.  We don't ask our government for controls.. And they don't make the Companies live up to any standards. It's all about the profit margin.

If I were to use PP Selects I would not use longer than 3 months at a time. Rotate to a better quality product or feed raw for a while to flush out the dogs system.  And believe it or not PP Selects is not a bad food...  It's better than 50 percent of the foods found in the market.

Virtually all manufacturers get there B vitamins and taurine from China, at least Purina is being honest and up front about it and is setting up an office over there to monitor the ingredients.  Most of these holistic companies with the fancy ingredients lists that deny using any ingredients from China are simply lying or worse, don't have a clue where there ingredients are coming from..

From USA Today: 

"China is a primary source for some B vitamins and amino acids, including taurine used in cat foods. Finding them elsewhere will be hard, says Greg Aldrich, nutritionist with Pet Food & Ingredient Technology."

From Eagle.: 

Due to the global economy and worldwide outsourcing, some ingredients or supplements are not made in the U.S. or are not made in sufficient quantity. Most pet food and human food companies and makers of supplements most likely source some supplements from China. Most B vitamins for human and pet consumption come from China. In our supplements, U.S. vitamin maker BASF sources some vitamins from China. This will be true of the vitamin content for most pet foods you buy and for many pet or human vitamins you use. The Glucosamine we humans take as well as the Glucosamine in your pet’s food most likely is sourced from China. The same is true for human grade Taurine. Some pet food makers seem unaware that some ingredients of necessity must be sourced from China; scary they don’t know.

Our China sourced products are purchased only from suppliers that are on an approved material list. The list assures that product is only purchased from companies that have and continue to meet the quality demanded in our ingredients.

We know the word China is not welcomed by pet owners, so why are we even mentioning it? Because pet owners are scared and want the truth. Some companies have been less than forthright.  Consumers are looking for assurance their pet food is safe, nutritious, natural and holistic and will stay that way. Eagle Pack Pet Foods wants to be truthful, up front and transparent with pet owners. Pet owners don’t want surprises later. And they want the whole truth and they want it now.