OH MY GOD!

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    OH MY GOD!

    It have been 2 weeks that we have had Quicey and when we got him, he was very playful and like to nibble on your legs and feet. Now Quicey is 8 weeks and his nibbles are turning into bites. I posted somthing like this before and was told to put a toy in his mouth when he does that. I DO! He plays with it for 1min or so, if he is very hyped up he will just ignore it. Now i am trying the follow:

    ~When he bites i yell. "Ow" "stop" "No" "ouch"
    ~I lock him in the crate untill he clams down, if he comes out biting again i put him in for another 5-10 mins.


    I was trying to go violent for alittle while by pushing or hitting him on his side but i know that this will cause him to be worst... I stoped that after 48 hours of it.


    After all of those things that i have been trying he has got WAY worst with it!
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    first off never ever hit him, you are right, it will only make things worse, im glad you stopped..
    whenever he bites say "no" in a firm voice and GENTLY push him off of you..theres really not much else you can do, you just need to keep doing this and be patient...hes still very young and learning....just be consistant with him, eventually he WILL get it!!
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    I know what you're going through, I have a 10 week old puppy and we are still working on bite inhibition, and yes those teeth are sharp!
     
    First of all, if you use your crate as punishment for the dog he will start to HATE going in there.  Going into his crate should always be positive and should never be used as punishment.  I know the temptation is there but in the long run, this could cause other problems.
     
    Puppies bite.  It's normal behaviour and we need to teach them not to.  The way I do that is by tethering Ben to something (like a leg of my couch) with his leash while playing with him.  The minute he bites I yelp LOUDLY and walk away.  I did for a while simply turn my back but that didn't work well, so now I leave the room for a moment.  I come back and resume the game, but leave again if he bites me.  I also use his much-loved belly rubs as a lesson - if he bites me during one, that's it, it stops.  He has gotten MUCH better since we started with these techniques.
     
    Make sure he has plenty of chew toys and praise him every time he is chewing on one of them instead of on you.  If he is REALLY hyper and does need a "time-out", throw a toy and a couple of treats into his crate and lure him in there.  That way going into his crate is still a positive thing but he gets a chance to calm down.  Using violence his not a good idea.
     
    Hope this helps.
     
    Kate
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    ORIGINAL: Dizzyd

    It have been 2 weeks that we have had Quicey and when we got him, he was very playful and like to nibble on your legs and feet. Now Quicey is 8 weeks and his nibbles are turning into bites. I posted somthing like this before and was told to put a toy in his mouth when he does that. I DO! He plays with it for 1min or so, if he is very hyped up he will just ignore it. Now i am trying the follow:

    ~When he bites i yell. "Ow" "stop" "No" "ouch"
    ~I lock him in the crate untill he clams down, if he comes out biting again i put him in for another 5-10 mins.


    I was trying to go violent for alittle while by pushing or hitting him on his side but i know that this will cause him to be worst... I stoped that after 48 hours of it.


    After all of those things that i have been trying he has got WAY worst with it!



    Remember; puppies are cute so you don't kill them.  Yup this is one of those tests. I learned from my older dog's interractions with Yoshi as a pup that the most effective thing to do is stop play when he gets too rough. Heck there were times when Yoshi was deep in puppy psychosis when all I could do was straight arm him (hold him at arms length) until he was done. Other than that I found he got really nuts when he was over tired - just like a human baby.

    Paula
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    You got this puppy a little too young, and what his littermates would have begun to teach him about inhibiting his bite, you have to teach him yourself. 8 weeks is still very young, and this behavior will probably be around a while longer, so keep training and be patient - he'll get it eventually.
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    be patient!! The "no" or "ouch" then pushing him away and ignoring him for a few minutes WILL work! Graice was very bitey when we got her. She never learned that it was inappropriate. It took a few weeks of us being dedicated to saying OUCH! or No! and ignoring her every single time she bit but she finally got the message and rarely bites anymore. If she does bite, it is very very gentle.

    Don't give up! It takes quite a while.
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    hi,
    We just got a new pup.
    We had only one dog before. we adopted her she was 2 1/2 years - fully trained and sweet.
    The new gal seems real sweet most of the time.
    Her Name is Henrietta,
    we adopted her from a local humane society.
    she is about 15 weeks.
    Doberman Pincher mix.
    after 24 hours of being home, she started this:
    When playing inside, she wants to bite everything, the carpet, cushions, anything she can try to bite. I say NO, and pull her away by the body harness she wears and give her a rope bone or other toy. but after a bit, she rather bite everything else. so then I'm pulling her away from those things (sometimes unclamping her jaw from a cushion) and saying no, then give her a toy, but she goes right back. this seems to get to a point where she starts to turn and snap at my hand, bark and even growl. like getting aggressive toward me. like she wants to bite these things so bad, then she gets mad/frustrated with me telling her no, no, no, no and pulling her away from them.
    This morning I picked her up, took her to the couch, put her on her back and lay over her and said, I'm alpha, you will listen to me, no biting. (someone told me to do this, the "alpha roll" when they challenge you. she just kinda barked and growled at me, trying to bit at my hands. she has not drawn blood or anything. but with the growling and trying to bit me she seems really aggressive? so then I put her on leash, she flew around the room with the leash on, me holding it, I pulled her back from the things she was trying to bite, then she got tired and laid down and went to sleep.
    this has happened 2 times now.
    She is sweet, but gets into a biting frenzy like this.
    If we are outside, she loves to lay in the grass, chew on a twig, watches people walk by, she does not bark at them, does not bark much at all other than biting frenzy. she likes little walks, but if we pull her too much or she gets tired, she will just lay down.
    She loves to cuddle when she sleeps. so right after this biting frenzy, she falls asleep she wants to cuddle by us on the couch. from I want to bite you, to I love you, rub my belly, let me cuddle by you.
    She was easy into the kennel first couple times, but getting more resistant to going in there. I always throw her toys in there, she goes in, I quick shut the door. she whines for maybe a minute or 2 and then is quiet and nice with an occasional little noise.
    She is very shy timid when new people approach. - like the neighbors. when they head toward her, she starts to back of, kinda hide by me, then gets on her belly and crawls toward them (very cute) then she rolls over to expose belly.
    Outside she is great. likes to sit in grass, go for little walks, potties. she only had 1 accident in house in during first 2 hours of having her.  it is Tuesday Morning 10:44am here, we had her since Sunday 3:30pm. so she has been really good with the potty and good once in the kennel. good outside. she just goes bazerk flying around in the house and biting frenzy aggression thing.
    The only thing I can think of, is to limit her inside to a room with things she can not bit/or damage? or will she just bite them later? as in with out the temptation there, she will not learn not to bite them for the future?


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    You've got a tough job ahead of you.  From 6 to 8 weeks the pup should have been learning bite inhibition from his littermates and mom.  Try this:  when he bites and you say "ouch" take a chew toy and put it in his mouth.  "good boy"
     
    Don't just try to stop the behavior, that will frustrate you and him both.  Redirect the behavior into a more appropriate behavior.  Try this a few times before the time out period. 
     
    I don't tolerate teeth on skin past a certain time period, usually around 3-4 months, that's when I break out the bitter apple spray.  Also, don't consent to anyone "playing rough" with your pup.  This encourages the teeth on skin behavior and teaches your pup that it's appropriate to play this way with humans.  (ah yes, it's cute now...but what happens in a years time when the pup has developed stronger jaws?)
     
    There's a great booklet by McConnell, I forget the exact title but it's something like "How to be the Pack Leader and have your Dog Love You for it."  It's not a big read, but it's a pretty good one.
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    Kozmo,
     
    Please don't do the alpha roll, it's a good way to get bitten. 
     
    The best thing you could do for this girl is to limit her freedom, both for the sake of your furniture and for her sake.  Puppies, when given total freedom, don't do so well with potty training or other behaviors.  If she's out, keep a close eye on her. 
     
    Another thing you could try, instead of the alpha roll is to start feeding her meals one piece at a time, from your hand.  She'll recognize that you're the alpha and that good things come from you.  Alphas don't dominate by threat or aggression, nor do they roll the subordinates.
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    ok. got it. no alpha roll.
    also, I will try the ouch! thing.
    She only ends up trying to bit me, when I keep having to pull her away from things like carpet, furniture. so maybe just keep her on a leash, and use that to limit her?
    or do I make her a room of nothing she can bite? that seems liek she woudl not learn to bite furniture, carpet, etc.
     
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    Put appropriate chew toys in the room with her.  Puppies NEED to chew, it makes their gums feel better and it relieves alot of tension. 
     
    Don't totally isolate her from you in this area either.  I suggest baby-gates or something that lets her see you.  Work with her and get her a reliable "Leave it" command and then if she's chewing on the furniture "leave it" and when she complies...praise and an appropriate chewie.
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    also, I do not want to crate her too much/long.
    right now we:
    Crate her some at night. We go to bed after she does both potty (about 9pm) then I get up at midnight to take her out. clean crate, she goes outside, we potty her walk her aroudn a bit, then back in crate - which she is not thrilled about. another 3 hours till 3:30. at 3:30 we take her out again, so far clean crate (never has ever gone in crate) and same routine, but then we let her sleep in bed till we get up 6-7am. she does that well, just sleeps real nice, wakes up nice, we go right outside. I let her in bed, cause I think I have her in crate too much.
    during the day, I put her in the crate for maybe 45 minutes to 2 hours max in the morning, then for about 45-2 hours max around dinner time.
    is this too much? not enough?
    looking for advice so we have a good puppy that becomes a great dog and we can be great parents. like I said above, we never had a pup before. just a 2 1/2 year old dog that was a jewel till she passed at 11 1/2 years old from cancer.
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    I took her out of the kennel, outside right away.
    she went potty, then I brought out 5 toys. we played, she chaged, retrieved, etc. but after a while, she gets tired of the toys and wants to chew grass, tree seeds (little red one's & Helicopters), little twigs, etc. I really watch because ther is also Bunny poop pellets she likes to eat. I do not want her getting sick or anything from those! for some reason, she just wants to nibble on nature.
    in the house it is anything that can be chewed.
    I tried penning her in the kitchen. I stayed with her in there. there is nothing for her to get into.
    she tried jumping up on cupboards, I said down, she listened, but kept doing it minutes later. same for the baby fence blocking her in the kitchen. she keps trying to jump over it. I stayed in there with her. for a while I sat down, she sat in my lap, gave me kisses. but she kept wanting to try and jump the baby fence. so I took her out to potty again, then brought her in. then put her toys in the kennel, this time through a treat in there and she went right in. only about 30-40 seconds of whining.
    I also started to re-enforce good things with treats - small treats. I was not giving her treats before. now she is watching my hands all the time. I think she is too smart.
    we just started her on her new food since we just adopted her. using Nutro.
    The humane society gives a blend of all the food that gets donated - so we can't keep her on nor transition her what she was getting.

    also to note:
    She does let me take sticks, leaves out of her mouth - as in I open her mouth and remove with my fingers. no biting from her. she takes treats very well too. no nipping.
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    Ah, I got my Maddi at 16 weeks... let's just say that I think the first week she I swear thse thought her name was "Drop it."
     
    The first thing you must realize is that your pup is probably teething. She's going to chew like mad. I would get a kong toy, stuff, freeze it, and give it to her (I believe that they make a puppy kong, but I'm not sure you would need it). You can also dampen a towel down, twist it up, freeze it, and give it to her as a treat.
     
    For now, until she's fairly reliable with both "Drop It" and "Leave It" as well as chewing on appropriate things, you might consider tethering her to you . That way you can correct and redirect her chewing should she start (i.e. she's chewing the chair leg, you say "uh uh" and put a toy in the chair legs place. Praise when she chews appropriate objects).
     
    From what you talked about with her "frenzy," it sounds like a case of the zoomies (the dog runs full speed around the house, yard, whatever just for the FUN of it [:D]). A lot of dogs get them, some more than others.
     
    As for crating, I think you could cut back to only taking her out once during the night. The general rule is puppies can hold it for the length of time (in hours) to however months they are old plus one hour. So, she's going to be 4 months old soon, so she could be crated for 5 hours.
     
    As for the counter surfing and gate jumping, you'll have to just be consistent and firm that you don't want that. It'll take a little while for her to understand.
     
    Also, how much excersize does she get?
     
     
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    know what you're going through, I have a 10 week old puppy and we are still working on bite inhibition, and yes those teeth are sharp!

    First of all, if you use your crate as punishment for the dog he will start to HATE going in there. Going into his crate should always be positive and should never be used as punishment. I know the temptation is there but in the long run, this could cause other problems.

    Puppies bite. It's normal behaviour and we need to teach them not to. The way I do that is by tethering Ben to something (like a leg of my couch) with his leash while playing with him. The minute he bites I yelp LOUDLY and walk away. I did for a while simply turn my back but that didn't work well, so now I leave the room for a moment. I come back and resume the game, but leave again if he bites me. I also use his much-loved belly rubs as a lesson - if he bites me during one, that's it, it stops. He has gotten MUCH better since we started with these techniques.

    Make sure he has plenty of chew toys and praise him every time he is chewing on one of them instead of on you. If he is REALLY hyper and does need a "time-out", throw a toy and a couple of treats into his crate and lure him in there. That way going into his crate is still a positive thing but he gets a chance to calm down. Using violence his not a good idea.

     
    Wow, I couldn't have said it better myself, Kate.  Wanna come and teach my puppy class next week LOL?