Prong collars

• jetty Posted : 6/2/2006 11:57:16 AM I would never put a prong collar on an aggresive dog that lunges as it will cause them pain and solidify their fears that other dogs are scary (and cause pain too!)   My favorite book with regards to dog aggression is Click to Calm: Healing the Aggressive Dog by Emma Parsons   Fight!  by Jean Donaldson is also quite good. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• Xebby Posted : 6/2/2006 12:21:09 PM Thanks, I ordered the books. I am afrade I am going to have to find a new trainer for Gizmo. I know she's learning but before I can even start her with a group I want to learn how to handle her agression. I am considering for now only doing private lessions with a trainer quilified in this area. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• luv4gsds Posted : 6/2/2006 12:57:55 PM I don't think a prong collar in this situation is going to help this dog. I think desensitization and counterconditioning training would do best for this dog.   There is a couple of books that are great to read on is called Pet Behavior Protocols by:  Suzanna Hetts and the other one is Don't Shoot The Dog by: Karen Pryor. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• Mic Posted : 6/2/2006 4:33:58 PM If you need to use the prong to control the dog then please do so.  The first goal is everyones safety.  I would not however use the prong for training practices.  Read through the above mentioned books, and start working on your own.  Then find a qualified behaviorist (not trainer) to help you. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• Xebby Posted : 6/2/2006 5:08:56 PM Yes, a behaviorist! I never considered going to a behviorist, but what should I look for when choosing one to go to? What question should I ask before so I know that is the person who I want to help me? I am happy with the results I have using the prong collar but dogs are so complex that I often feel like maybe there is a better way then that. Gizmo know sit, sit stay, down, down stay, stand and come all of which i could have never taught her without the trainer and the use of the collar. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• Sandra TH Posted : 6/2/2006 6:00:55 PM I have a very dog-reactive (not aggressive, but it almost looks it) border collie mix.  For a short time I used a prong on her for control, but her reactiveness wasn't getting any better so I began teaching her a focused heel and sit and slowly- very, very, very slowly - we are getting closer to dogs on walks without her going ballistic (just like mrv suggested).  She wears a martingale collar and has been making progress.  Desensitizing really does work, but you have to be very patient and it is a lot of hard work, but I am so proud of the progress Zoey has made!    Your dog can get better too- you can do it if I can!  I also think a behaviorist is a good idea- I'm sure they will be very helpful to you.  Good luck and keep us posted! 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• matt pitchford Posted : 6/14/2006 12:35:03 AM prong collars are doggy cruze controls.  they are great, they dont choke,  they pinch and the dogs dont like that so they dont pull!!!   do they hurt the dog never unless ''you'' pull.  let the dog pull into it. he she will learn .    but you will never be at the vet with a neck throat  roblem like on a choker collar. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• Mic Posted : 6/14/2006 8:18:21 AM Prongs are safer than chokers, but are still not appropriate for this particular situation. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• spiritdogs Posted : 6/15/2006 12:01:07 AM Prongs are safer than chokers, but are still not appropriate for this particular situation.   Ditto. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• matt pitchford Posted : 6/15/2006 12:53:32 AM ORIGINAL: spiritdogs Prongs are safer than chokers, but are still not appropriate for this particular situation. Ditto.     Use the prong  otherwise ill have to go there and show you. lol 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• spiritdogs Posted : 6/15/2006 6:23:56 AM I don't know whether you are making a threat or not, but I am bringing this to the attention of the moderator.  0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• matt pitchford Posted : 6/15/2006 9:07:55 PM relaxx jeezz are you 2?  the post was not intended to offend. stop acting like that its immature.. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• dyan Posted : 6/15/2006 9:34:56 PM I think the prong collar works good on some dogs. Ollie the Great Dane used to pull a lot, but the prong would keep it to a minimum.  He would almost choke himself to death with a choker. I still have one that I put on Bubby only for a bath and take it off...I will never use a regular choker collar again on any dog...but I would use a prong collar if needed. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• matt pitchford Posted : 6/16/2006 1:15:41 AM thank you!!! 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• Mic Posted : 6/16/2006 6:55:27 AM Prongs are safer than chokers, but are still not appropriate for this particular situation. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login