Does this seem okay?

    • Bronze
    when a dog isn't practiced in eating bones I would start with chickenthroat - they are very easy to digest. Other bones can make probs for bone-beginners!
    • Gold Top Dog
    She's been getting bones for a while to keep her teeth pearly white!
     
    But thanks for the tip because I dot eventually plan on a second dog, even though that's years down the road!
    • Silver
    IMO, chicken necks are way too small for a dog this size to be eating and a potential choking hazard.  Her dog will gulp them right down and part of the great thing about rms's is that the dog has to work on them and can't gulp them down, which give the digestive juices in the stomach time to start working.
    • Gold Top Dog
    What benefits are you looking for from feeding 1 raw meal a week?

     
    First, I'm kind of getting my feet wet so to speak. I wanted to see how she'd deal with it... and how I'd deal with it, which I think, in the grand scheme of things, we did just fine.
     
    Since I, at least I don't think, can afford a completely raw diet at the time, or even something like what Glenda does, I figure a meal completely of fresher ingredients than kibble, even if it's only once a week, will still do her some good. However, with the gusto she ate it with (of course!) I'm thinking of balancing it all out and going for 3-4 times a week instead of once.
     
    But, like I said, Im just dipping my toes into the pond right now.
    • Silver
    Yes - go to 3-4 times a week if you can!  I feed 1 meal kibble and 1 meal raw a day and my dogs love it.  I'd go to totally raw but for the fact that we travel a lot on the weekends and my life is crazy enough w/out having to pack or worry about raw food, kibble is easier to deal with. 
     
    I understand the cost issue for sure!  I am all over whatever is on sale at the supermarket.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I only fed raw once or twice a week and the teeth cleaning benefits are wonderful.  I too would LIKE to feed raw more often, but where I live it's just too danged expensive.
     
    Actually, doing homecooked is about 1/2 the price of the weekly bag of Innova.  But even with a recipe approved by a canine nutritionalist, I'm more comfortable with feeding one meal that I absolutely know has everything in it.  For example, finding beef heart for taurine around here is like trying to find gold in the bottom of a swimming pool.  With one meal of Innova and one of homecooked I know they are getting everything they need with the added benefit of fresh foods one meal per day.
     
    I applaud anyone who is willing to dip their toes in and do some raw.  I'd love to be able to afford to feed totally raw all the time.
    • Gold Top Dog
    What could you feed for a homecooked meal? I'd like to try! I feed my dogs chicken wings a few times a week, and i think they would LOVE to have some "human food" once a day...
    • Gold Top Dog
    let me suggest you buy some of the little recipe booklets by Monica Segal. She has several- raw diets, home-cooked diets, and I think one about supplementing a kibble-based diet. They are only around $5 each. They will let you see what is involved in actually feeding a balanced diet.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I believe that's what I paid the canine nutritionalist for.....to be certain that I was feeding a balanced diet.
     
    Ridgeback, I'm always happy to share the recipe, which was approved by a canine nutritionalist by the way, and if you want to send me an email, I'll be happy to send it along.  I do ask that those who receive the recipe CONSIDER making a donation to the MS Walk...and time is running out for me to reach my goal.
    • Gold Top Dog
    How much more do you need, Glenda?
    • Gold Top Dog
    A mere $150...but the walk is a week from tommorow!
    • Gold Top Dog
    If you ever go back to the red meat again, try going for more of a natural fat mixture like 20 to 25% - that was probably part of the problem.  I am not sure why, but too much fat can cause digestive upset, and so can too much muscle meat (like in a very lean cut), but when you get the two more balanced, they handle both much better even when unaccustomed to it.  Don't forget that with the "other stuff" in your dog's diet the fat is not going to be 25%, but closer to 15%, which is right around perfect for a Northern breed.

    I consider my Border collies to be in the Northern breed category when it comes to dietary needs.  Plus my Maggie is a Finnish spitz mix.  So I did some research on their minimal whole food needs. 

    My gang does best on lots of fish (they get a little whole or canned every day, plus there is some in their kibble), small ruminants (sheep/goat), and poultry and game meats.  That's not to say they don't eat anything else, but I make sure this makes up the bulk of my food choices.  Since I changed to this approach, I hardly notice even their spring "blow" (though of course I still find it on the floors [;)]) - Maggie's is as substantial as any Spitz breed.

    Hmm.  What I'm saying is,. experiment with some historically appropriate foods for your breed.   Always give new things in very small portions - don't worry about your dog getting exactly the right amount every meal, it's more important that you not shock his system until he's used to eating a variety of things every day.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Glenda, I'm still waiting on the sale of our other farm to be finalized - the lenders are playing games and we are currently running in the hole in our budget for just the basics.  [:o]  suppposed to close early next week now - cross your fingers for us!
    • Gold Top Dog
    I had considered catoring more to her ancestry. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information on the Malhemut. However, I get the impression  that they were a costal Tribe. So I am considering fish as well, although I haven't gotten around to researching it more.  I guess I'll ask now though. I would want to cook the fish, at least during the summer because I will be catching them wild. Is it okay to feed a whole, cooked fish to a dog? Not big, maybe like a 10in brook trout or something?
    • Gold Top Dog
    Since BCs subsisted in part on both raw and cooked heads and tails and other fish scraps, I've been feeding whole raw fish.  I'm sure there are reasons not to, but I'm as squeamish about cooked bones as others are about raw meat.  [;)]  I don't see any reason not to steam or pan fry them just as you would for yourself, and pick the bones similiar to how you'd eat it.  We used to get pounds and pounds of crappie and other pan fish from our neighbor who went fishing two or three times a week and must have been a pretty darn good fisherman because he'd come back with buckets of these things.  Sadly, we've moved away from him so I'll have to look for another source now.

    Most coastal natives have a diet primarily sea-based.  The farther north and closer to the areas inhospitable for tillage-based agriculture, the more dependent on the sea they were/are. 

    Don't forget sea veggies - I discovered that the fields of northern Britian, especially in the Highlands, were fertilized with a combination of decomposed sea vegetables and fish scraps.  Their grains and grazed animals would then be in their turn VERY high in DHA, biotin, and other sea-originating nutrients.  Most coastal cultures used sea vegetables in their diet somehow, either directly or incorporating them into their agriculture as above.