Need help choosing the best puppy food

Nutro
Beet pulp before the fat, generic "poultry" fat instead of chicken fat, 5 grains, menadione, dried egg "product" 

mmm true

i'll go with Royal Canin then

cheers sooner

Good luck with it!

we fed our puppy the nutro natural choice for large breed puppies for a little while. it wasnt too bad. his coat and skin are better with the food he is on now though. we fed our other dog nutro natural choice chicken meal, rice, & oatmeal for about 9 months with no complaints.

oh damn think I might have mistaken the ingredient list - that was for a Royal Canin puppy formula

i researched on the UK site for the Maxi babydog and Maxi Junior formulas cos thats wot we get here -
http://www.royalcanin.uk.com/default.aspx?page=98

Babydog (suggested for 5mnths of age) - Rice, dehydrated poultry meat, animal fats, maize gluten, hydrolysed soya protein isolate, beet pulp, poultry liver, yeast, minerals, vegetable oil, fish oil, fructo-oligosaccharides, trace-elements (including chelated trace-elements), L-lysine, yeasts extract (source of manno-oligo-saccharides), DL-methionine, hydrolysed crustaceans (source of glucosamine), hydrolysed cartilage (source of chondroitin), marigold extract (source of lutein), vitamins.

Junior (5mnths to 15mnths) - Maize, dehydrated poultry meat, maize gluten, animal fats, dehydrated pork protein, poultry protein isolate, poultry liver, beet pulp, minerals, vegetable oil, trace-elements (including chelated trace-elements), fish oil, egg powder, fructo-oligo-saccharides, yeasts extract (source of manno-oligo-saccharides), taurine, DL-methionine, marigold extract (source of lutein), hydrolysed crustaceans (source of glucosamine), hydrolysed cartilage (source of chondroitin), vitamins.

is that still any good? or does the Nutro become suddenyl a better choice?

Ummm, I don't know.
 
I don't know how to read that ingredient label or what the ingredient definitions are. Are those the UK ingredients for Nutro that you posted or are those different too?

no those are the Royal Canin formulas for puppies we get here - same as the UK ones

the ingredient list i posted earlier was for a formula found in US for puppies.. it seems the ROyal Canin UK have differnet forumals for the large breeds - starting with Maxi Babydog till 5 months of age and continuing with Maxi Junior - the ones i posted are the ingredients of the latter 2

the other list for Nutro and Evolve remain the same

If the Nutro list is the same, then it might be better. I don't know UK labeling laws such as the definition of "poultry" as compared to chicken or what exactly "animal" fats are.

Yeah, I think RC is different in the UK, however it is the only food in the UK that is approved by the Europe OSI (like our AAFCO, but higher standards) because RC tests every single batch.  

The Evolve looks really good. My husky/lab has been doing great on Nutro, though.
 

ok i was looking around and i found this Italian premium dog food that we import over here.. its based on natural products and marketed as a high quality food

its called Dog Club Elite -> High digestibility dehydrated chicken meat (min 25%), rice meal, dehydrated North Sea fish meat, chicken fat, eggs, natural prebiotic, maize oil, poultry hydrolysates, fish oil (Omega 3 0.75%), vitamins and minerals, Antioxidiser : EEC-approved additives

Moisture 9%
Raw protein 28%
Raw fat 18%
Raw fibre 2%
Raw ashes 6.5%

some of the ingredients are not translated well from Italian, its not my 1st language

I think this is a cut above the others, but I'd like yr opinions as a reassurance

Cheers
Andrew

poultry hydrolysates

 
The above makes me wonder if that is byproduct, as it does not say what part of what poultry was hydrolyzed. But the other ingredients look good. Since you have a dog that will be more than 50 pounds when grown, you might look into a large breed puppy formula, if it's available to you.

this isnt a specific large breed formula but i checked the calcium and phosphprous levels and theyre at 1.1 and 0.9% respectively.. that good enough?

Natural Life is available at a lot of Wal-Marts and it is a really good dog food.  Visit their website at [linkhttp://www.nlpp.com]www.nlpp.com[/link] to get a lot of good information and the ingredient list.  It's too long to put on here.  My dogs love this food!