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Posted : 4/15/2007 12:09:37 PM

ORIGINAL: Luvntzus For the first time EVER, Abady actually kind of makes sense to me! I guess they're feeding dogs the way that people used to- high meat, organs, high fat, and very little grain. It has the lowest fiber I've seen in any kibble.

Yes, but keep in mind Abady does make a kibble but we have been speaking of the Granular type feed. When considering the fiber, it is the expansion types of fiber Abady will avoid because they feel the expansion is area area that can cause potential problems (in the stomach). Several common types of fiber additives (beet pulp for one) can expand over 200% times
when wet as opposed to being dry form. Dry kibble hits the stomach and it will expand. Abady will do its best to keep the expansion fiber content very minimal in the products.

Luvntzus

Posted : 4/15/2007 12:14:04 PM

cc431- I wasn't saying that low fiber was a bad thing at all.

cc431

Posted : 4/15/2007 12:46:34 PM

ORIGINAL: Luvntzus

cc431- I wasn't saying that low fiber was a bad thing at all.

I know, I was just speaking in general...

schlep

Posted : 4/15/2007 7:45:52 PM

I feed Link Nature's Variety kibble during the day and raw at night. He likes it, and he looks/acts great.

jjsmom06

Posted : 4/15/2007 7:53:17 PM

We were on the "dog food rollercoaster" for the first 5 months I had this current set of greyhounds. Every food either had products I didn't want to feed them, they seem to cause allergy problems in my JJ or they had asbolutely horrible stools since they have pretty sensitive tummies.

After trying Timberwolf Organics Dakota Bison formula I was hooked as I believe in the ingredients, we had no allergy problems in JJ and they have both well formed stools.

Stacita

Posted : 4/15/2007 8:10:30 PM

Here is what I feed my ten and my fosters:

Wow! You do home cooked for 10 dogs as their whole diet! What size are they? I'll never whine again. I have three large dogs, one who is a voracious eater and do mostly home cooked. One eats some raw too. None have food allergies or digestive problems so about once a week they get a kibble & canned meal. The brands vary. The latest is Canidae.

I started doing this at the advice of a holistic vet when one of my dogs had multiple Mast Cell Cancer tumors in a very short period of time. I'd do more raw, but two of my three won't touch raw except for recreational bones without much meat. It is working. The doggers look great!

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Posted : 4/15/2007 10:05:28 PM

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Amanda Jones

Posted : 4/16/2007 1:11:49 AM

My seven year old mutt girl Maggie ate Innova for a long time but then she started to develop a large number of crystals in her urine. I tried several other diets but never got her urinary issues under control under I fed her Waltham's Urinary SO prescription diet. She's such a sensitive girl in the pH department that I'm afraid to feed her anything else now. [&:]

janet_rose

Posted : 4/16/2007 4:29:53 AM

I have the luxury of knowing everything my dogs could possibly need form a nutrition standpoint is in that scoop.

Since humans still don't fully understand the nutritional requirements of our dogs, that is an awfully big claim.

Looking at the ingredients listed by Ottoluv, I would not feed any food that has mystery ingredients like "Meat Meal". The amount of salt needed to make the foods palatible also concerns me greatly. Poultry by-products are not necessarily bad, but they are often not handled properly (exposed to the elements, not refrigerated, etc.).

I would also be interested in finding out if their fish contains ethoxyquin. Note that I did not say whether Abady adds ethoxyquin.

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"There are currently several studies underway to determine whether Ethoxyquin is safe or not, and until those studies are completed, pet food suppliers may continue to use Ethoxyquin."
"According to US Coast Guard regulations, all fish meal not destined for human consumption must be conserved with Ethoxyquin (unless the manufacturer has a special permit). This preservative is banned from use in foods for human consumption except for the use of very small quantities as a color preservative for spices. So unless the manufacturer either presents a permit or states "human grade" fish or fish meal is used, you can be pretty sure Ethoxyquin is present in the food even if it is not listed."

glenmar

Posted : 4/16/2007 4:37:28 AM

The Abady drum has been beaten many times from both sides. Let's not turn this discussion into a pro/con abady thread, ok?

willowchow

Posted : 4/16/2007 5:13:55 AM

I simply feed the best possible diet that works for my dog. If at any time I'm having trouble with a food not working, ie she's not acting right or not eating or doesn't have the energy she should, etc, I will look for something to replace it. But, basically I'm of the stick with what's working school of thought.
Edited to also add in--I also pay absolutely no attention to what others are feeding. I've learned over the years every dog is different and you can't go by what's working for other dogs you know.

dogslife

Posted : 4/16/2007 6:49:03 AM

I cook once a week for them and it takes about two hours to produce it all. I go through many a bag of red potatoes, brown rice, whole oatmeal, chicken breasts, cottage cheese, Missing Link, not to mention enough carrots to feed a dozen horses, and enough apples for both myself and the dogs. It helps I grow apples in the backyard, but I have yet to learn how to properly grow carrots or potatoes.

That sounds excellent.

Growing carrots and potatoes is easy. The ground is going to need good preparation so that the vegies will form nicely. They are cool weather crops, and I see that you live in Ca.
You can buy seeded potatoes, wherever you buy your seeds or you can just let the eyes grow a bit and plant them in your garden. You may have different variables, depending upon your actual area/climate...so just talk to your seed store person. In New England, now is a good time to plant those things. (not today though, we have a bit of a northeaster going, Boston Marathon is not looking like fun for those poor folks!

What is Missing Link that you included in your ingrediants?

Stacita

Posted : 4/16/2007 6:54:23 AM

I have one base meal for all three of mine, then add things as appropriate for each of my dogs. Although I'd done a lot of reading, it really helped me to have a consultation for each dog with a holistic vet. I've gone to taking them once a year to a regular vet and once a year to a holistic. We went through the blood tests, the diet, etc. and determined what additions would be optimal for each....and it was surprisingly affordable.

Although there's times when I'm not delighted to slave over a hot stove, it's worth it. My neighbor is a big time gardner (pesticide free), so I'm frequently the reciepient of free high quality produce. DH helped them build a new porch last year, so we should be reciepients for a long time. LOL!

Stacita

Posted : 4/16/2007 6:58:37 AM

I simply feed the best possible diet that works for my dog. If at any time I'm having trouble with a food not working, ie she's not acting right or not eating or doesn't have the energy she should, etc, I will look for something to replace it. But, basically I'm of the stick with what's working school of thought

Actually, that's exactly what Monica Segal recommends. Mine get quite a bit of variety because they like it and can tolerate it, but for dogs with specific problems, she recommends not deviating from what is successful. Depending on the dog, what looks good on paper, may not work as well.

cc431

Posted : 4/16/2007 9:17:56 AM

ORIGINAL: glenmar The Abady drum has been beaten many times from both sides. Let's not turn this discussion into a pro/con abady thread, ok?

Somebody always feels the need to jump in criticize anothers product and ingredients; human grade nature I guess. However, the thread is what you feed and why, yet she felt the need only take those few shots rather than mention what she feeds and why?

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