NUTRO food contamination

I don't think your friend means to alarm people, per se. More than likely, just wanting people to be aware. After all, boxers are one of the breeds that are prone to canine epilepsy and according to one website, such things can be linked to tumors, etc.
 
[linkhttp://www.canine-epilepsy.com/underlying.html]http://www.canine-epilepsy.com/underlying.html[/link]
 
 

This is not going to magically convert me to full raw feeding

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Especially when on another message board last night, I was reading where someone put on a whole page of information about chicken (almost all chicken found in stores-fresh or frozen or in packages, restaurants, all over,,,that has arsenic in it.  Because chickens are fed grains laced with it, a practice that has been going on for tons of years, but is now banned in many countries. You might be okay with organic chickens but not the rest. 
 

Did you know that many, many years ago women took minute doses of arsenic to make their skin "clear and beautiful"?  And many over did it and died.  I will take my old unbeautiful skin, thank you.

YIKES!

That would apply to chicken in dog feed, also, you realize.  The chickens are all grown the same way.

I don't see how they'd find out.  The chicken companies keep their feed formulas super-secret - not even the growers know what is in the stuff.  It also changes all the time and it's different from company to company.

I'm not saying it couldn't be true.  I'm just saying I don't know how someone would know for sure that "all chicken" has is fed feed with arsenic in it.

I have a friend who feeds her dogs culls from her broiler houses, with feed still in the chicken's gullets.  These dogs, very hard working Border collies,  live to be well in their teens, have litters of fourteen pups when she breeds, and are the picture of health.  She's been doing this for twenty years so you'd think if there's aresenic in the feed it would start affecting her dogs somewhere along the line.

This is why I no longer read and read every little thing about dog food or dog nutrition on the internet.  It gets to be too much, every time you turn around there is some problem with either a brand of food or a specific human food, it's too much. 
 
You can't believe every little comment someone makes either.
 
I had to stop living with fear and worry about this topic all the time. 

ORIGINAL: brookcove

That would apply to chicken in dog feed, also, you realize.  The chickens are all grown the same way.

I don't see how they'd find out.  The chicken companies keep their feed formulas super-secret - not even the growers know what is in the stuff.  It also changes all the time and it's different from company to company.

I'm not saying it couldn't be true.  I'm just saying I don't know how someone would know for sure that "all chicken" has is fed feed with arsenic in it.

I have a friend who feeds her dogs culls from her broiler houses, with feed still in the chicken's gullets.  These dogs, very hard working Border collies,  live to be well in their teens, have litters of fourteen pups when she breeds, and are the picture of health.  She's been doing this for twenty years so you'd think if there's aresenic in the feed it would start affecting her dogs somewhere along the line.

The truth. I am sure there is some unsavory stuff in chicken feed which shouldn't be there but saying a high level of a poison is present is ridiculous.

Unfortunately, before I wrote this, I put CHICKEN ARSENIC in SEARCH, try it,,,you won't like it!!!  This is not Internet stuff, this is real!

I talked again with Nutro today, while at work. I also received back an email from Nutro.
 
So far in the testing for that batch, no toxins were found. Nutro is doing what they can to investigate that problem to determine why a 9 or 10 year old boxer would die not long after eating. That is, preliminary results are that it is not the food.

[linkhttp://www.consumerreports.org/cro/food/animal-feed-and-the-food-supply-105/chicken-arsenic-and-antibiotics.htm]http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/food/animal-feed-and-the-food-supply-105/chicken-arsenic-and-antibiotics.htm[/link]

I sure don't like the statement that feeding arsenic doesn't cause any human problems,,,somehow, why don't I believe that?????  
The thing I read on a website last night mentioned the amounts of arnsenic found in KFC and other chicken places...you know, a whole bucket of chicken was found to have  _ _ _%!  Yikes!

   Maybe it's a good thing that Jessie is allergic to chicken.Thanks for the information Dyan and trishanne; I had no idea that arsenic was in chicken feed; it's ridiculous what the FDA will allow. The Consumer Reports article said they didn't find any arsenic in the muscle meat but they did find some in the livers; my husband loves chicken livers but I don't fix them too often, looks like I'll be making them even less often. It's not hard to find organic chicken, but I've never seen packages of organic chicken liver.

it's ridiculous what the FDA will allow.

 
Yeah, kind of like the amount of aflotoxins they allow in corn and other grains!!

Hey Doc. One link through the Lone Star Boxer Rescue said Conroe, Tx. Another one said Montgomery. Basically, two little cities around Houston, similar to the way you Garland and Mesquite around Dallas.

Don't worry, Sandra. Someone else will come out with something about Purina or any other big name brand. There doesn't even have to be preliminary proof for a rumor to flame up like a wildfire. I understand that caution can be the better part of valor in some cases. My bag of food has the "best if used by May 2, 2007" but the lot numbers are completely different. And my dog still hasn't had any problems. The OP mentioned that symptoms came within 3 hours of feeding. True, that could be anything from the food itself to something else the dogs got into. Since the OP mentioned immediately getting a grinder and going to full raw, it is possible that the dogs ate some raw along with or after their regular meal.
 
Case in point. Wednesday of last week, we went to a friend's house for dinner. My wife bought some steaks to bring along to have cooked. Hers was a little more rare than mine, which was rarer than we usually eat it. The next day, my wife had to skip work so that she could stay home and throw up for half of the day. I know dogs may not suffer as often from germs in the meat but they can suffer from it. It is not totally out of the realm of possibility.
 
FWIW, if I were feeding TO and my dog was doing just fine on it, I wouldn't quit using it just because someone said it might be made at a Diamond plant. Yes, I would research it. To an extent, there is that risk in feeding any commercial food. It's not huge but it is there. There is some risk in feeding raw, or homecooked, primarily in the balance of nutrients if you don't do it right.