question - Royal Canin vet diets

Personally if it would work and help cut down on the itches, i would do it.  Any dog that itches 24/7 has to be miserable, and ear infections are awful things.

Why not just feed him the Natural Balance Duck & Potato kibble since you're already feeding him the canned? The fewer different ingredients the better if you're trying to get his allergies/ear infections under control.

I remember reading something in another post about Royal Canin being recalled in the past.  Did this recall have anything to do with the prescription diets?  I heard that the prescription diets are made in a separate facility.  Does anyone know if this is correct?

He can't have any NB kibble because there is flaxseed in it and he is allergic to flaxseed.  Also allergic to chicken, turkey, beef, lamb, wheat, barley, flaxseed and peas.  It's so hard to find a dry food without any of these ingredients especially the barley and flaxseed.

ORIGINAL: Shelley75

He can't have any NB kibble because there is flaxseed in it and he is allergic to flaxseed.  Also allergic to chicken, turkey, beef, lamb, wheat, barley, flaxseed and peas.  It's so hard to find a dry food without any of these ingredients especially the barley and flaxseed.

Ahhh, okay, that does make it tough. It IS almost impossible to find a food without barley or flaxseed. Flaxseed isn't a problem for Gingerbread, but I won't feed him barley. There are several foods that could have been possibilities. I really don't have any ideas for foods that don't have any of the ingredients you mentioned. [] Hopefully someone else will though!

Yes, it IS impossible.  The only kibble I found was the ones I listed in the first post, Go Natural Wild Salmon & Oatmeal or Royal Canin prescription diets.  I want to keep feeding the NB duck & potato cans, but at night he gets a snack (he vomits in the morning if he doesn't have a snack before bed) so the dry would only be 1/2 cup as a snack.  I never knew finding dog food could be so difficult!  And I must say, I never thought I would be so happy he is allergic to wheat (due to the recalls).

I would feed the Go! Natural Salmon and Oatmeal even though the kcals are a little high. I just wouldn't feed him quite as much and maybe exercise him a little more. I haven't seen the Royal Canin allergy food ingredients, but based on their other foods, I don't think it's something I would consider feeding personally.

Which would you feed?
 
These are the ingredients in the Royal Canin Rabit & Potato Dry Formula Dry
 
Dehydrated potatoes, rabbit meal, rabbit, canola oil, potato protein, potato fiber, calcium phosphate, natural flavor, L-lysine, salmon oil, sodium chloride, choline chloride, vitamins [DL-alpha-tocopherol (source of vitamin e), L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), inositol, niacin, vitamin A acetate, D-calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), beta-carotene, ribflavin (vitamin B2), pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement], minerals [zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, iron proteinate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite], DL-methionine, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract, and citric acid.
 
crude protein (min) 19%
crude fat (min) 10%
crude fiber (max) 4.5%
moisture (max) 10%
calories 319/cup
 
These are the ingredients in the Royal Canin Potato and Whitefish Formula Dry
 
Dehydrated potatoes, herring meal, whitefish, canola oil, potato fiber, calcium phosphate, natural flavor, sodium chloride, salmon oil, L-lysine, choline chloride, vitamins [DL-alphatocopherol (source of vitamin E), L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), inositol, niacin, vitamin A acetate, D-calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), beta-carotene, riboflavin (vitamin B2), pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), vitamin D3, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12], minerals [zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, iron proteinate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, calcium iodate, sodium selenite], DL-methionine, preserved with natural mixed tocopherols, rosemary extract, and citric acid.
 
crude protein (min) 19%
crude fat (min) 10%
crude fiber (max) 4.5%
moisture (max) 10%
calories 323/cup
 
These are the ingredients in the Go Natural Wild Salmon & Oatmeal Formula Dry
 
Salmon Meal, Salmon, Oatmeal, Whole Oats, Canola Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols (vit.E), Oat fiber, Inulin (FOS), Mannanoligosaccharides (MOS), Yucca Schidigera, Vitamin A Acetate, Cholecalciferol (vit. D3), dl Alpha Tocopherol Acetate (vit. E), Ferrous Sulfate, *Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Oxide, Ascorbic Acid (vit C), Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Copper Sulfate, *Copper Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, *Manganese Proteinate, Riboflavin, Calcium Iodate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (vit B6), Folic Acid, Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Cobalt Carbonate, Vitamin K, Vitamin B12.
 
*these items are chelated minerals
 
crude protein (min) 22%
crude fat (min) 12%
crude fiber (min) 3.8%
moisture (min) 10%
calcium (min) 1.12%
phosphorus (min) .9%
*omega 6 fatty acids (min) 2.75%
*omega 3 fatty acids (min) 0.3%
calories 466/cup
 
 
 

There is a class-action suit in canada re 59 specific Royal Canin products and 1 that includes everything else.

   Shelly, Have you ever had Jake tested for environmental allergies?  Besides being allergic to chicken, salmon, potatoes, pork, and brewers yeast, Jessie is also allergic to many types of pollen and also to dust mites. She is on immunotherapy for her environmental allergies because antihistamines, fatty acid supplements, and baths weren't enough to keep her from having skin and ear infections. Many dogs with food allergies have environmental allergies too. If changing Jake to the IVD Potato and Rabbit doesn't help, you may want to have him tested. I know how frustrating it can be to try to keep an allergy dog from having problems, and I hope you can find the right answer for Jake.

The ingredients in the Royal Canin formulas were way better than I expected, but I'd still definitely choose the Go Natural because of the protein/fat percentages. 22/12 is low enough in that one, the 19/10 in the Royal Canin ones is waaay too low. Plus Royal Canin has menadione bisulfite (better foods have removed it because of links to health problems). And the Go Natural has yucca which is a digestive aid and reduces odors.

have you thought about home-cooking or raw?  seriously, it's the only way to really control what your allergy dog eats, and it's so much healthier than those allergy-dog commerical foods. It's not that hard once you get a recipe and a system going.
 

Jessies Mom,
 
I did have him tested for environmental allergies.  He is only allergic to certain molds.  He eat leaves, and I'm sure there is mold on the leaves.  My dog is obsessed with leaves!
 
Mudpuppy,
 
I used to homecook for Jake, but it was too much and I was afraid I was hurting him more than helping him because I was afraid I wasn't doing the calcium/phosphorus ration right.  It was too much work and I'm not a healthy person, so when I'm sick, I wouldn't have any to cook for him.
 
Luvntzus,
 
I agree, the Go Natural does look better, I'm just afraid of the calories, but the fat content is on 12% and that doesn't seem to high.

Jessies Mom,

I did have him tested for environmental allergies. He is only allergic to certain molds. He eat leaves, and I'm sure there is mold on the leaves. My dog is obsessed with leaves!

    I think I may have asked you that question before; sorry. The combination of food allergies your dog has makes it almost impossible to find him any dry foods except for the prescription foods. If you feed him one of the IVD foods you could add a little cooked or canned meat to increase the protein a tad. I'm sorry that you have health problems too; that certainly adds to the burden of caring for a dog with food allergies as bad as Jake has.