WHAT is with the Purina people?

It just depends on the dog, my experience was that I brought my pup home on Purina One, a recommendation from the breeder, who said to feed ONE or Pro Plan.  My pup did very well on it, but I started reading dog forums and was continuosly told how bad that food was and that I needed to get my pup off of that food ASAP.  Well I believed it and spent almost 3 years, trying numerous super premium foods, and really none of them worked, my dog was always miserable, scratching all night long, hot spots, hair falling out, yeasty ears, under weight, loose stools etc,  finally out of desperation, I went back to Purina ONE and guess what the itching stopped, the hot spots went away, she gained much needed weight, I also found a couple of other foods she does well on, and they are also what would be considered middle of the road foods, so in a nutshell when someone comes on here and says there dog is doing really well on such and such, and I here someone say oh well you can do much better on a "Super Premium" food, I cringe.  Sure some dogs might do well on the "Super Premiums" but I also personally know many people who have experienced the same things I have, better results with a middle of the road food.

 It took 3 tries to find a premuim food that did not upset Zoe's stomach (Innova), but we found one.

 
But if your dog is doing well on one,,,why would you put him thru this?  IF you are having problems,, then its time to change.
 
 

I see. So this is a reaction to something that happened earlier

 
Thanks for the psychoanalysis. I don't feed Purina and I'll defend it right here, right now, and right against you. You can't let it go. If people like Sandra and Tony have good experience with it and labs to prove it, then nothing you can say wiil dissuade me from believing they had good experience with it.
 
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I haven't seen a case where Sandra or Tony or Losinsusans has ever said anything against what you feed. Unless you feed Solid Gold, in which case the stuff posted against Solid Gold is a matter of state and federal record, as far as their legal problems go.
 
Actually, it's okay for you to not like Purina. Although you wish to objectify them with "Purina People". But there will continue to be people that have a good experience with Purina and you won't be able to stop that or shut them up. Sorry about your luck.
 

This thread started off with a genuine question and almost immediately went down the tubes with questions like.....
 
I cant help thinking if a dog truly does do well on the abovementioned food,then can you imagine how much better they would do on a super premium food?

I guess MY question would be, why do we (collectively) feel the need to try to "convert" everyone to feeding super premium?  I personally don't feed Purina, nor will I, ALL other considerations aside, if I'm gonna clean up piles that look like they came from a horse, well, by golly there best be a horse on the other end dispensing said piles.  And again, everything thing else aside, that would be enough reason for me to feed a higher quality.
 
But do I have the right to tell someone who I know only through the internet that they aren't feeding their dog correctly?  By MY standards?  And by going for the "throat"......I don't think so.  I can't reach through cyberspace and touch, smell, feel these dogs who are "doing great" on lesser foods....maybe their dogs are doing better than mine who are on super premiums and homecooked and raw.
 
For that reason I will often defend the Purina feeders......and also because I hate to see a group of folks being dumped on.......reminds me too much of the schoolyard bullies....

ORIGINAL: ron2

I see. So this is a reaction to something that happened earlier

Thanks for the psychoanalysis. I don't feed Purina and I'll defend it right here, right now, and right against you. You can't let it go. If people like Sandra and Tony have good experience with it and labs to prove it, then nothing you can say wiil dissuade me from believing they had good experience with it.

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I haven't seen a case where Sandra or Tony or Losinsusans has ever said anything against what you feed. Unless you feed Solid Gold, in which case the stuff posted against Solid Gold is a matter of state and federal record, as far as their legal problems go.

Actually, it's okay for you to not like Purina. Although you wish to objectify them with "Purina People". But there will continue to be people that have a good experience with Purina and you won't be able to stop that or shut them up. Sorry about your luck.

Ron I was asking a simple question. My response was not an attempt at psychoanalysis. It was exactly as stated - oh I see. Thanks.

Sorry I didn't read your post properly.

I identified the group as a chorus because I noticed a certain rhetoric would pop up in all kinds of nutrition threads. A thread would be about, for example (wacky) orange peels, and someone would pipe in some connection with Purina. I couldn't help but notice a pattern.

Whomever Sandra or Tony or Losinusans are, I don't know that they're aware of what my dogs eat. I don't recall asking anyone's opinion on what my dogs eat. I usually go though pains not to mention what my dogs eat when it comes to nutrition discussions.

I wasn't objectifying Purina. I have my own opinions about what I would feed my dogs, and have stated over and over that judging a person's worth by what they feed their dog is hasty.  If asked my opinion on an ingredient list I will tell you.

Regarding this part of your post, "But there will continue to be people that have a good experience with Purina and you won't be able to stop that or shut them up. Sorry about your luck."

Never have used purina dog food. Never have tried to shut someone up for using purina dog food. So you must have been referrring to someone else?

That was it.
Paula

I brought my pup home on Purina One, a recommendation from the breeder, who said to feed ONE or Pro Plan.

ORIGINAL: abbysdad

I do not feed Purina but my guess is that there is a bigger difference between Purina One/Pro Plan and their regular dry highest volume seller than there is between One/Pro and some of the somewhat more highly regarded kibbles (like Blackwood for example).
 
That said, when I was a kid we fed our dogs Purina Dog Chow (50 pound bag from grocery store) and it had fur in it.  I do not mean a contaminated bag but every bag.  Virtually every peice of kibble had discernible fur and we never gave it a second thought.  Actually I did but it didn't matter.
 
I think those were the days (assuming they've passed) of dogs eating a not trivial amount of euthanized dogs and cats in their kibble.

"Purina People"  so now we can get even further discriminated against.  UGH!  You don't have to like what we feed but understand most of us have tried other feeds.  Why is it if you don't feed top of the line that you either don't love your dog or your trying to kill them?  I don't understand why alot of the Premium feeders come down on us  all the time.  We don't take you down for what you feed.  Its rather upsetting when you are cut down for what you feed..instead of agreeing to disagree.

ORIGINAL: Firestorm

"Purina People"  so now we can get even further discriminated against.  UGH!  You don't have to like what we feed but understand most of us have tried other feeds.  Why is it if you don't feed top of the line that you either don't love your dog or your trying to kill them?  I don't understand why alot of the Premium feeders come down on us  all the time.  We don't take you down for what you feed.  Its rather upsetting when you are cut down for what you feed..instead of agreeing to disagree.

Pardon. I used Purina people as an easier way to say 'people who chose to use purina products above all els and seem to continuously advocate it in numerous posts'. I guess I was being lazy?

It would be wrong to say that just because you don't feed a food I approve of you're trying to kill your dog.

Puala

years ago my hubby worked in the Purina plant here as an electrician.  He said he had never seen such a clean plant and they were inspected constantly and the food made there was very very clean, he said he wished our own food had been inspected so carefully.

If I was referring to you directly..I would have addressed you by your name.  A Lot of people have said that feeding Purina is causing our dogs health problems as well as early death.  I say feed what works best for your dog.  I wasn'y attacking you just stating fact of what others have said.

This is to no one in particular, I just want to say that I don't know what the big deal is.
My brother feeds beef n more or something like that, he was telling me yesterday that he likes it and we started talking about what we feed our dogs. Actually, it started because I said something about crockpotting for Ella and he got on me about feeding her "people" food so I explained why I do it. That then started the conversation about what he feeds. We both looked up the ingredients of beef n more and I told him why I wouldn't feed it but told him that whatever he did was up to him and I won't criticize him for it.

Honestly, it's like, some of the premium food feeders can be like people trying to convert others to christianity or something. "Now that you know God exists and that Christ died for your sins, repent and convert. Accepting Jesus into your heart and soul is the only way to get into Heaven."
"Now that you know better dog food exists, repent (profusely for not knowing better) and change dog foods. Changing dog foods is the only way your dog will survive and live a long life."

Sorry, maybe that's extreme, but that's how I think of it.
I don't know why it's such a huge deal.

ORIGINAL: chewbecca

This is to no one in particular, I just want to say that I don't know what the big deal is.
My brother feeds beef n more or something like that, he was telling me yesterday that he likes it and we started talking about what we feed our dogs. Actually, it started because I said something about crockpotting for Ella and he got on me about feeding her "people" food so I explained why I do it. That then started the conversation about what he feeds. We both looked up the ingredients of beef n more and I told him why I wouldn't feed it but told him that whatever he did was up to him and I won't criticize him for it.

Honestly, it's like, some of the premium food feeders can be like people trying to convert others to christianity or something. "Now that you know God exists and that Christ died for your sins, repent and convert. Accepting Jesus into your heart and soul is the only way to get into Heaven."
"Now that you know better dog food exists, repent (profusely for not knowing better) and change dog foods. Changing dog foods is the only way your dog will survive and live a long life."

Sorry, maybe that's extreme, but that's how I think of it.
I don't know why it's such a huge deal.

Chewbacca,

I don't think it's an extreme comparison. The same analogy occured to me, but with regards to extermists on both sides of the argument.

Paula (atheist)

ORIGINAL: chewbecca

......Honestly, it's like, some of the premium food feeders can be like people trying to convert others to christianity or something. "Now that you know God exists and that Christ died for your sins, repent and convert. Accepting Jesus into your heart and soul is the only way to get into Heaven."
"Now that you know better dog food exists, repent (profusely for not knowing better) and change dog foods. Changing dog foods is the only way your dog will survive and live a long life.".........

 
You hit the nail on the head!!!
 
It seems recently talking about dog food is like talking about religion. I have always had a problem with people comming up to me and telling me that I am going to hell b/c I am not christian or b/c I do not believe in god...then proceed with shoving their beliefs down my throat. I HATE THAT!!!! And I think people who do not feed a "premium" food would feel the same way if I went around telling them their dogs are going to die and they don't love them enough and then go into why what they feed is absolute crap. That is just not right.
 
I feed EVO with a couple of meals of raw during the week. I do this b/c it is what works for my dog. And I don't want to feed him 5-7 cups of food a day or pick up cow pies out of my yard. But I am not going to try to tell other people what they should or shouldn't feed their dogs. If they are curious what I feed and want to know why I will tell them. My mom feeds her dogs anything that is on sale. She also give them leftovers, meat, bones, etc. So while she may not have the "best" food their diet is being supplimented. I'm not going to look down on her or try to persuade her on what she should or shouldn't be feeding them - it's none of my business.
 
 
 
 

I agree, BUT the purina people are extreme because they have been pushed into defending themselves earlier.
There are some definite food snots on here (no names), and at first, I had similar thoughts.
But I've since learned, it's not my job (and it's incredibly rude) to tell someone what they should and should not feed their dogs.
I mean, if they said they were feeding plastic and sticks as meals, I might try to convince them that that is not a healthy food, but Purina is a dog food, made specifically for dogs.
My opinion is my opinion and I have enough courtesy to express it politely and in this case, only if I'm asked.

ORIGINAL: chewbecca

I agree, BUT the purina people are extreme because they have been pushed into defending themselves earlier.
There are some definite food snots on here (no names), and at first, I had similar thoughts.
But I've since learned, it's not my job (and it's incredibly rude) to tell someone what they should and should not feed their dogs.
I mean, if they said they were feeding plastic and sticks as meals, I might try to convince them that that is not a healthy food, but Purina is a dog food, made specifically for dogs.
My opinion is my opinion and I have enough courtesy to express it politely and in this case, only if I'm asked.

LOL. I make the distinction that I am a kibble nazi but not a kibble snob. This means I am absolutely nuts about what I feem MY dogs, but I'm not going to think you're a bad person or love your dog less if you feed your dog something else or even something I would never buy.   I go with the Oliver Wendell Holmes saying "My right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins".

I try at least.
Paula