Trey won't eat

    • Gold Top Dog

    Trey won't eat

     Again...

    I think the problem is I've started giving him satin balls, so he won't touch his food and waits for the better stuff. I thought maybe homecooked or raw might work better. I'm not really prepared to start raw though overnight. What's a good homecooked diet recipe? Or I have read that satin balls can be fed on their own if needed. Is that true? I just want to find some sort of total diet Trey will eat.

    Fyi, he's 16.6 lbs, pretty underweight and 13 years old.  It's going to be 2 weeks until the rest of the blood work comes in and we start him on any medication.  The vet suspects he has hypothyroidism- he has some hair loss as well as weight loss.  He's been to the vet a few times in the past weeks and now we're waiting until his results come back from the endocrinologist. 

    • Gold Top Dog

    i know nothing about homecooked, sorry.

    but what did help me with jason was adding raw egg or yoghurt to his kibble and rreeeaalllly mixing it up.

    his teeth and gums are ok, right? might wanna check on that, just to be sure...?

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     With Rascal, for a while I had to add canned dog food to his dry kibble and mix it all up together. Sometimes he would just eat the wet food, but at least that was full nutrition, too! Will Trey eat anything canned? Rascal likes the Solid Gold and Wellness canned ones, and he's pretty picky.

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    Nope, he's refusing canned food or kibble. He'd been on canned food for weeks, then I started the satin balls to try to put weight on and he stopped eating the canned too.
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     Poor guy. I'm far from a nutritionist, but if this is just a temporary issue (i.e. planning to change his diet once the test results come in, but want him to be a healthy weight in the meantime) I'm inclined to suggest just feed him whatever he'll eat. Satin balls, something approximating homecooked, whatever... if it's only for a period of 2 weeks ish, I doubt any lasting harm would be done by a not-entirely-balanced diet. Once he's feeling better, hopefully his appetite will return, too!

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    If he's suspected of thyroid problems, don't put him on a high fat/high carb diet (ie, the satin balls). Hypothyroidism is a risk factor for acute pancreatitis.

    There's an excellent page here on putting together a short term cooked diet: Dog Aware's diet page. Scroll down to see a sample diet that is simple and easy to put together and perfectly safe for most dogs, short term.  I'd use low fat meats like skinless chicken, turkey, pork loin, and low fat beef.  Be sure to also include a fish oil supplement in his diet to support his immune system and skin, which are weakened by thyroid insufficiency.

    Oops, sorry ETA: - to adjust this recipe for his size, simply mix up the whole recipe and then feed him what he'll eat in one serving.  Then based on that, divide up the rest and freeze in single portions. 

    For long term, I'd suggest either working with a consultant directly, or taking a look at one of the publications put out by Monica Segal on this page with suggestions for older dogs.

    Good luck!  I hope you get some answers quickly - thyroid issues can be a bear but thankfully it's a relatively easy fix once you are on the right path. 

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    The reason I was using satin balls was to try to put weight on him. It's tricky to balance what he needs because he can't lose more weight. And this *should* be temporary until we find out exactly what is going on with his thyroid or if ti's another problem.
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    Oh and I'd been wondering about the fish oil since his skin and coat is really suffering lately. Hopefully we'll find out it's just hypothyroidism and he can start treatment...
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    Right.  Just stay away from the high fat and high carb stuff.  Acute pancreatitis is something that can be triggered very suddenly and has severe long term implications for an older dog (assuming the dog survives) - it's far better for your dog to be underweight than to risk this.  If his weight becomes an acute concern (ie, he is not gaining or refusing to eat "normal" food), you need to go back to the vet.  This is additional information which may be a symptom of a different problem.

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    Yeah, we've been in and out of the vet's for about a month, lol! Poor little old man. Hopefully we'll get him all figured out soon. The latest it should be is a week from next monday for the blood work to come back from the endocrinologist. They really suspect hypothyroidism, but another possiblity he threw out was of course cancer and the vet also mentioned Cushings but thinks that's very unlikely. Other than the severe weight loss instead of gain, his symptoms are very much like hypothyroidsim. His T4 was low on the last round of tests. At the time he was also vomitting and having runny stools constantly too. Thankfully we got him over that with some antibiotics. I tried the recipe you linked me to, though, and he ate it like I haven't seen him eat recently. He keeps begging me for more.
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    Oh good - he's eating :)      I agree with keeping it low fat - pancreatitis is nasty and can be deadly.     If he'll eat the homecooked see if you can start slowly adding in some canned to that - at least he'll get some "supplements" from it.      My dog does really well on the Wellness canned foods - stay away from the chicken tho - it has significantly more fat than the others.    Can you give him an extra meal during the day ?   A third meal can help put on weight.    Smaller meals throughout the day is also a good way to avoid pancreatitis.