Gentle Leader on chihuahua

    • Gold Top Dog

    Gentle Leader on chihuahua

    Hi guys! I know I'm going to get some people who disagree with me, but I honestly must sing the praises of the Gentle Leader. First of all - I had no idea this option was available to me, as my dog is barely 5lbs. But they do make GL's for all sizes, including mine!

    First, let me say, I (tried!) to do everything right. When I got him - he was socialized like mad: people/kids/etc. We completed the 1st level of obedience. He occasionally goes to doggie daycare where he plays with small (and often) larger dogs, with no problems. But when we are on leash: he is a terror - especially when he sees other dogs. He wants to kill them. He pulls. He barks. And he doesn't get over it, once the stimulus has passed. He'll just continue to bark at anything..people, whatever. And it has ONLY been getting worse. I have been looking into private trainers for a while, as our walks seem to be getting increasingly stressful. He's unhappy. I'm unhappy....not a good scene. I LOOK like that person who has one of those stereotypical yappy small dogs - I look like that person who didn't take the time to train her dog ....but it's not the case at all! I thought when he was a puppy, I did all I could to get him on the right track.

    Enter: the Gentle Leader. I had him wear it around the apartment for a couple of days - put it on when he ate/played, etc. And today - was the big test outside. The change in him was almost immediate. Yes, he fiddled with it somewhat. But it was the first stress-free walk I've had with him in ages. Things he would have normally ran after or barked at - he didn't. Yes, it was obvious that the nose strap bothered him..but he didn't focus on it and it was not to the degree that he refused to walk or did not have fun outside (his tail was up, he was peeing on every damn corner, the works). He knows the 'heel' command. But with a regular harness with only do it when there is nothing around us. With the GL, when he'd begin to fuss, I'd stop, let the leash 'self-correct', wait for him to stop then lure him to my side with cheese and tell him to heel.

    My hope is that we can use the GL thru a 'transition' period as I continue to help him along out of this leash aggression phase. We start with a private trainer next week. I also have an easywalk harness - and hope that I can eventually wean him off the GL and onto that (for the pulling). I wanted to just let owners of small dogs know that it is an option available to them. You definitely need to be careful because the GL is self-correcting and these little guys have wee little necks. You need to just stand and let the GL do the work. No pulling or tugging on your end. I also wanted to let people know that instead of using his regular leash, I looped some lightweight (but sturdy) rope thru the metal ring, so he would not have to deal with the added weight of the leash clip dragging down his snout. Worked like a charm.

    Wish us luck. I am actually hopeful now that we can get him out of this behaviour before it drives our entire neighbourhood insane!

    • Gold Top Dog
     I brought GL for JJ months ago because she wasn't walking nicely.  Though it was a waste of money for me because I only use it 2 times.  So even though there are things like this avaliable for dogs, sometimes it may not work for all dogs.  JJ is now walking nicely with a regular harness/leash.  I'm glad that you find GL useful and is helping your chihuahua. [&:]
    • Gold Top Dog
    Thats exactly what I did with my girl. She was a heavy puller and I used the gentle lead from when she was a puppy in accordance with other training methods. She now does not pull and I always have it handy to throw on her if she tries to get unruly. I still use it from time to time if we are going to walking through a large crowd of people like at a festival or something. The harness just wouldnt work for her
    • Gold Top Dog
    I think you are in grave danger of damaging your dog's neck if you let the dog "self correct" by lunging against the leash while wearing a head-halter. These head halters aren't supposed to offer any kind of "correction", they are supposed to allow you to lead the dog's head and therefore it's body. If you want a tool that does offer "self correction" try a prong collar. Yes, they make prong collars in toy dog sizes.
    • Gold Top Dog
    While I do appreciate the comment - I would never use a prong collar on my dogs' necks. They are already prone to reverse sneezing and I never use anything around their necks, as they are so delicate. The nose loop is ideal for us right now. Thanks!
    • Gold Top Dog
    While I am a huge believer in the gentle lead something came to mind regarding this topic yesterday. I let my little brother grab the leash for a moment while I went to tye my shoes and thankfully I have a strong dog because I could really see how it could be used inproperly with the neck being vulnerable. Obviously you are VERY aware of your dogs fragility but it was just a thought I'd share incase you have other's handle or walk your dog. I might have mentioned that a harness wouldn't work for my girl but it would work for you incase you have you kids or others walking your fur baby!
    • Gold Top Dog
    a prong will not damage your dog's neck-- the dog hits the points and STOPS. It prevents the dog from applying force to himself. Much safer than any other kind of collar. MUCH safer than a nose-loop. Any kind of twisting force applied to the head via the nose loop, either by you or by the dog lunging, will cause damage to the dog's neck.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: mudpuppy

    a prong will not damage your dog's neck-- the dog hits the points and STOPS. It prevents the dog from applying force to himself. Much safer than any other kind of collar. MUCH safer than a nose-loop. Any kind of twisting force applied to the head via the nose loop, either by you or by the dog lunging, will cause damage to the dog's neck.

     
    I'm sorry but my dog did not react well to the prong collar at all. A lot of traineers had told me the same thing about it because I was hesitant to use it. When Rory was 4 months old she took off after a horse, wanted it really badly, it was her first test withthe prong collar. High prey drive made it so she did not carw whatsoever about the prong collar. She pulled away from me so hard she was bleeding around her neck and the vet said she bruised her wind pipe.
    I'm not trying to argue your point, just giving my own experience.
    What I don't get is that its a chi, how hard can it really pull? If the owner propeerly handles the dog with a harness or gentle lead I dont see how it can be that big of a issue. My girl is 62 pounds and can pull a grown man off of his feat. I just guess when I compare the pull of a chi to my dog it would be a walk in the park!
    • Gold Top Dog
    Re: a pulling chihuahua. The problem is not  - being unable to handle the dog's strength, I can definitely overpower him...but who wants to walk with a pulling dog, period?  The pulling feeds his aggression when he sees another dog as he is already "at the end of his leash". In addition to this, the pulling behaviour leaves me in a less dominant position - whereas if he were walking next to or behind me, I would be more of the leader in his eyes. I have already noticed that he is in a much calmer state when he is not pulling and that is a more balanced state for him to be in when we are outside!
     
    Also, the pulling tended to make him 'cough' and hack when we were outside. All in all, the Gentle Leader has helped me, help him stay calmer outside. :)
    • Puppy
    You must watch Ceasar Millan's show "The Dog Whisperer"!  You are answering your own question.  You said it yourself, "if he would walk behind me or next to me, he would see me more as a leader."  That's what you need to work on!  Don't wait for him to allow you to be a leader, be the leader.  Aggressively walk him, once in the morning and once in the evening.  Long walks not only help him to bond with you, but helps put him in a calm state.  Once in that state, he is in a better state of mind for training.  Make him walk behind you or beside you.  When you get to an area in your walk where he starts to show aggression, snap him out of it and make him continue to walk forward.  Ceasar says, excersise, discipline then affection.    Good luck.