spiritdogs
Posted : 11/14/2006 8:47:41 AM
ORIGINAL: rolenta
That's sort of what I thought. I don't mind "boobie-trapping" things, like with Bitter Apple or whatever else, but yeah, I don't want Tojo to think of me as the one who throws stuff at him. I didn't ever throw a cushion until one day, Tojo brought my toothbrush out of the bathroom into the living room to chew on while I was breastfeeding. I didn't want him to get the impression that it was okay for him to sit in front of me chewing my toothbrush! At any rate, if at all possible, I catch him and redirect him physically.
I agree. However, you can certainly toss something occasionally from behind, so that the dog
doesn't associate it with you. But, that is just to interrupt behavior that could cause injury to the dog, not for everyday situations that are best dealt with by teaching the dog what you *do* want him to do, and allowing naughty behaviors to just fade away when the dog doesn't get any acknowledgement for them.
I think perhaps Gary Wilkes is one clicker trainer who actually advocates the use of "harmless" aversives. You will find, however, that Gary does not advocate the use of any punishment without a corresponding action from the trainer that teaches the dog what you do want the dog to do, and ends the session in a positive way. So, punishment is not pointless, as so often happens when humans just punish without remembering to teach, then reward, as well.
Truthfully, I don't think you need this stuff with most pet dogs, and would refrain from doing anything but the "booby trap" techniques, which appear to come out of nowhere, and teach the dog that it's dangerous to sniff what's up on the kitchen counter, for example.