New Service Dog Question

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    New Service Dog Question

    Okay, so Madison, who used to be a big 'ol love-bug is now suddenly very shy and afraid of new people. She won't come near anyone who enters my house -- if they try to go to her, she growls and runs away (or behind me). As long as she's lived with me (since 5 months - she's over 2 years now), she's never had a bad experience with strangers. I always keep lots of treats around and encourage people who come over to give her one so that she associates strangers with treats. It's getting so bad that a friend of mine, who is over quite frequently, tries to give her a treat and she won't even take it. She just stares at him. Like he did or said something wrong. He (the friend) has never been mean to me, even playfully, so I don't think that she thinks he hurt me, and he DEFINATELY never hurt her.
     
    My boyfriend jokes that she'll never get her CGC if she acts like this and he's totally right! In public, she greets people, but she's very skittish (e.g. if children are crying or if too many people are trying to walk by her). We tried just standing outside a semi-busy business to get used to the traffic walking by her while she was calm and she did okay. But the last thing I need is her to freak out inside the building and people will think "what kind of service animal is that?"
     
    Please help!
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    By CGC do you mean Canine Good Citizen?  Your dog cannot show resentment at being handled but if she focuses on you then it shouldn't be a ;problem... It sounds like supervised isolation may also be a problem.  Getting your CGC is not a race, I wouldn't worry about how long it takes - there is not point in trying to rush and then fail the test.  It sounds like practicing in Pet Stores, training halls and dog shows/trials will also help! 
     
    I'm not sure if I have missed previous posts explaining your goals but getting her CGC doesn't automatically make her a service dog.  She will need a lot more training then that!!  In any case, nobody should be approaching and petting a service dog without asking so training her to look at you and ignore people is a good thing.
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    I think you misunderstood what I was explaining.  Yes, CGC is Canine Good Citizen, but no, she doesn't resent being handled. She is just shy of new people.
     
    And no, I don't think CGC equals service dog. My father-in-law is parapalegic and confined to a wheelchair. I am well versed in ADA laws, including that of service dogs. I don't wish to imply that I am an expert dog trainer, but I believe that acheiving a CGC is a good first step towards working in public as a service dog, as most points of a CGC have to do with allowing people to pass without showing too much interest, resistance to loud noises and responsiveness to commands given by one handler.
     
    You're right about training her to focus on me, though. I've found that people, either out of ignorance or just plain stupidity, completely ignore the "SERVICE DOG - PLEASE DO NOT PET" vest she wears when we're training.
     
    I just need some advice about her shyness. Like I said in the previous post, I try to keep treats around so that she associates strangers with something good. And I don't think she's jealous -- like if people came over and she got ignored, so she associated them with being left out -- because she's usually the center of the attention.
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    The temperment you are describing is an absolute, no questions asked, removal from any service dog program of which I am aware.   A service dog must have much more stable temperment.  To run from something, someone new with vocalizations no less, is not appropriate as a service dog.  Now could the dog be trained to do in house things to make someone's life easier, no question.  But a dog that does not have adequate strength of character to stand its ground when someone enters a home should not be certified.  There is enough discrimination about service dogs as it is, despite ADA.  A bad one only makes it that much harder to gain universal acceptance.
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    A little tip I use when I am with the service dog we are training and people try to pet him is I tell them that he is working and they cannot touch him. They usually give me a dirty look and walk away confused. It's retarded....it says in plain sight "do not pet...service dog" and they still do it.
     
    Believe it or not I have also had shops try and kick me out of their store for having him there. How is he supposed to train to be a service dog if people try and keep him out of the areas he will be in more often?
     
    As far as her shyness...create the behaviour you want and reward her for it. Set up the situations in advance and control her as any handler would do. The second you see her behaviour change (you will see it in her eyes before she does it and this is when you need to correct it...before she actually does it) you need to control the situation and praise her for it. Consistency is the biggest factor. Make her learn that when the service dog vest is on she is working, no if ands or buts about it. Take the specific problems head on and address them inmmediately. If you do this for properly for 6-8 weeks her behaviour should change indefinietely.
     
    Unfortunately I also agree with the last post about the dogs tempermant not being adequate for a service dog. This is difficult for us to judge online though as we have not done tempermant testing on the dog or done the testing requirements to evaluate her. From how you are describing however it does sound like she may have a happier life being a pet in your home. Behaviours can be changed though it's just a matter of weather we can get them to the level needed or not. Good luck!