Chicken Wings

    • Gold Top Dog

    Chicken Wings

    I had this posted on the "Disease, Illness, Condition" thread but have gotten no responses...
     
    I have been reading several different threads and the notion of chicken wings to help keep doggie teeth nice and white keeps coming up.  I brush Baily's teeth a couple times a week but he loves the toothpaste so much that I don't think I am achieving much while battling his tounge [:D]

    I am asuuming the wings need to be raw because cooking causes the bone to be more prone to splintering.   Baily is a chewer not a gulper...  so I am guessing he will be likely to chomp on the little bones and break them.  They really are ok to ingest?

    Thanks for the help!

    • Gold Top Dog
    RAW and ONLY RAW should your chicken with bones be.
     
    A dog your size you could start out with wings and then move up to legs which will give more chewing/bone to help with the teeth along with the benifits of feeding RAW
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    Yep.  Don't cook them.  Just toss him a wing and keep an eye on him until you're sure he will chew and not swallow whole.  Personally, I doubt any harm would come from swallowing a whole raw chicken wing but better to be safe.
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    Thanks for the advice.  Next trip to the grocery store...Baily's getting a treat!
    • Gold Top Dog
    again just  an opinion but there are ver few chewy things that help keep tarter from forming;;Anything that is chewed...dog food, bones, chicken wings, dog biscuits only contact the teeth at the crown..In order to keep tarter from forming  the tooth has to sink into the  morsel so that it goes up the outside surface of the teeth... There once was a dog food that guaranteed that this would happen but i have no idea if it is still available or if it worked...My dog, whom is about 10 years now has never had her teeth cleaned and has never formed tarter..Why you ask...Because it is in her genetic or physiologic make up to produce saliva that does not produce tarter...This is the same for humans.I used to have a client who brought his Collie in once a year to get the tarter scraped off and he would go to his dentist the same day...it was in the saliva composition ( he didn't like it that i charged more  than his dentist...but he didn.t have to be anesthetized)...But I am sure all of you have friends who have dogs that don;t need scaling and they may feed the same food as you do.. I am sure a lot will not agree and thats what makes the world go round...but i beleive the saliva has far more to do than the diet
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    The only material that cleans the entire tooth surface is raw meat-- dog shearing through the meat gets all parts of the tooth cleaned. Sugar-laden foods like kibble and dog biscuits are what cause the tartar in the first place.
     
    While I'm sure it's true some dogs are more prone to dirty teeth than other dogs, I have multiple unrelated dogs. All regularly get raw meaty bones. Not one has ever needed a tooth-cleaning throughout their entire lifespan. The vet has been known to exclaim in disbelief at how clean their teeth are and remain.
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    i have to go back to my original statement that the chemcical composition of the saliva is the major factor...Raw meat works for you, that is fine but is it a cure all...Do all dogs that get you diet  remain tarter free...I have no idea but i had  patients on all kinds of different and exotic diets..And i could not find one single dietery factor  that would cover all...Even on this board i would love to know how many people feed your diet and of those how many pets are tarter free...But whatever works, you use...
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    I am by no an expert on any of this.  I agree with both sides though.  Totally can understand how some dogs are just not prone to tartar build up.  It's the same for humans.  I am 37 years old and have never had a cavity !  Just good teeth from Dad.  All my siblings seem to have gotten Mom's teeth.  I have 3 cats and one of them has much more tartar than the others.  All on the same diet.  I can also see how eating or chewing on certain things would help to physically remove some of the build up.  Baily eats his kibble and then 4 hours later I will be playing with him and realize he has mushed up food tucked away in the far corners between his cheek and gum.  That can't help.  He has minor staining now.  I want to find a way to keep it minor if not keep it away altogether. 
    Thanks for the help!
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    Dvet, I would have to agree with you, that genetics is a predisposing factor in dental health. I am sure that the chewing of "things" helps, but bad teeth are bad teeth. Certain breeds are also prone to dental problems, chihuahua's for example. A friend of mine who also raises field trial beagles has several dogs that have dental problems. All of the ones with problems are of the same bloodlines. I bought one of his pups a few years back (have had her since she was 8 weeks old) and she is also of the same bloodlines. She is showing some early signs of dental problems and she gets a totally different diet than his dogs. None of my other hounds have ANY dental problems. They are, for the most part, kibble fed, so I don't know if the philosophy of kibble causes dental problems can actually be completely valid.
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    Just going to pop in.  The food dvet was talking about that cleans teeth was probably Science Diet TD(tooth diet).  The humane society feeds all of its dogs the same diet and only a few of them don't have to go in for dental check ups regularly.  They are all fed a kibble mix that is mostly Purina ONE and any other good quality food that comes in.  I think it might be genetic.  I'd never thought about it that way.
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    Hunter and KayCee were littermates. They ate identical food.  By age 1, kayCee needed her teeth cleaned.  Hunter died 2 months after his 4th brithday and his teeth were as white and clean as the day they came in.   I do not think dogfood caused KaytCee's to collect tarter like my carpet collects golden hair, and I do not believe dog food kept Hunter's teeth tarter free.  Neither at anything raw.
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    yes, these stories show some dogs can keep clean teeth when fed kibble. But someone chime in: has anyone had a raw-fed dog who needed regular teeth cleaning? I haven't.
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    I was just saying that Hunter never had raw, yet had no tartar.  to me that indicates, as dvet said, it is the dog him/.herself and the chemicals that causes tarter, not the dogfood.  To me it is logical that chewing on bones would remove tartar, therefore dogs getting real bones would have less/none. 
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    I have a dog that I got in January who, until then, had always eaten kibble and not very good quality at that.  She had a ton of tartar on her teeth and they were gross!  She's been on raw since then and her teeth look amazing and most of the tartar is gone.
     
    To the OP, chicken wings are pretty small for most dogs except the toy breeds.  They are easily gulped down which is bad.  I'd suggest chicken quarters instead and if you don't want him to eat that much at one time, just take it away from him after he's eaten half of it or so.  The tearing of the meat and crunching of the bone is what is good for their teeth and wings are gone in a bite or two so you lose a lot of the benefit.
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    Good points everyone...one again this thread illustrates that there is no one "right"way.  It all depends on the dog.  Thanks for the advice.