corn gluten

    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: jenhuedepohl   If we are importing corn gluten from China there is something seriously wrong. We have that stuff coming out of our ears in this country. I can see South Africa importing it. They aren't a huge corn producer. But here we produce billions of bushels of corn AND manufacture the corn syrup and ethanol that results in tons of corn gluten meal as a co-product.

     
    Meanwhile, our tax dollars are at work subsidizing farmers not to grow; so they get a guaranteed price for what they do grow above the fair market price at the time.  Don't get started please.  I for one have been throughly disgusted as we all sit back and watch our country slowly become dismantled.  Our trade imbalance with China is a joke.  Our love affair for the cheapest goods for sake of profit makes me want to puke.  Nothing wrong making a profit, but the greed to squeeze out more and more profit is what is slowly destroying us.  It is not going to get better only worse due to the warped mental illness behind New World Order, Globalism, North American Communnnnnnnnity, NAFTA, CEFTA, etc.  We have been 'giving away the house' for a long, long time.  We better wake the heck up and get our act together.  Our pets are the canaries in the coal mines and our government better pay attention to the signals.
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    ORIGINAL: jenhuedepohl   The odds are slim to none that we would actually import corn gluten into the US. It would be like importing sand to the Sahara. Corn gluten is a co-product of ethanol and high-fructose corn syrup production so we have it literally thousands of tons of the stuff. 

     
    Thank the oil companies.  You see, they have been raping the middle class now for quite some time, and there is no watch dog in place with a buddy in the White House.  I heard the CEO of Exxon give his little speech about 6-12 months back.  They could care less about the middle class family struggling to keep afloat.  He said, they are going to continue to charge the maximum they can and keep moving the price up so long as the market can bear it, regardless of supply.  There is no shortage oil, but teachers pension plans and 401Ks are more important than a fair market price, so they keep driving the price up.  So how does it tie in to what you're saying?  There is a legitimate grain-meal shortage because it is being bought quicker to off set the rising costs of energy...yea like the ethanol you spoke of...they now got caught short-handed and this forces other companies, i.e., dog food manufacturers to shop around overseas...places like China...to get the cheap goods...and maybe squeeze out some more profit.[:@]
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    All of the corn gluten used to make Nestle Purina products is bought, grown, and processed in the US

     
    Any idea about Hill's? My Mom's cats eat Science Diet, third or fourth ingredient corn gluten meal. [&o]
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    Friends, this dog food recall thing has so many hidden political ramifications behind it one could literally write a text book on the subject.  Most don't follow politics close enough to make connections...trust me...this whole thing stinks so bad, you can even connect the greedy oil companies.  It really is a crying shame.
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    Can we please not turn this into a political discussion?  Or a Bush bashing?  He ain't my favorite guy either but this is not the venue for such a discussion.
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    ORIGINAL: glenmar  Can we please not turn this into a political discussion?  Or a Bush bashing?  He ain't my favorite guy either but this is not the venue for such a discussion.

     
    I understand what you're saying, and I don't think it is the place either but it landed here because of the prior mention of ethanol.  Oil companies, ethanol, shortages of gluten means, I think there are some legitimate connections there in regards to the unnecessary redirection  of energies to offset pricing in one sector, causing another sector to suffer the consequence.  In this case a shortage of gluten-meals.  As far as my comment "a buddy in the White House" was not a refection of my view of President Bush but rather sarcasm.  I voted for President Bush twice (and his father twice).  But, I guess you can tell from my "tone" I am not a big fan either these days.
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    I work for a pet product distributor that sells Royal Canin. We also sell Nestle Purina. Obviously our company would fall apart if Purina had tanted corn gluten. Sooo... after informing my boss about this exact forum discussion (see I talk about you guys at work) my boss made some phone calls.

    All of the corn gluten used to make Nestle Purina products is bought, grown, and processed in the US. Yah! Most of the wheat gluten Nestle Purina uses is also bought in the US, that is why Purina Chows, Pro Plan, Beneful, and Purina ONE have not been recalled. But they did purchase contaminated wheat gluten for certain formulas of Mighty Dog and Alpo canned foods. Nestle Purina doesn't use rice gluten in any of their formulas. Not that I'm endorcing Purina products, but it is the #1 food company out there. And my job depends on it.

     
    LOL I guess I am helping you keep your job because all of mine are on purina one. I had read pretty much this same answer on a couple of golden forums where they talked to purina.  so i believe everything they say?  I don't know.  it seemns so many have told half truths and i am not sure we can actually trust any of them.  But i am sticking with the purina one because there has been no recalls YET and it works so great for my dogs, corn gluten or not  I am hoping they are telling the truth so i don't have to get mad at them later on!!!!!!