balanced diet

    • Gold Top Dog

    balanced diet

    this question also deals with the same article i mentioned in the variety thread. the article is in the april issue of the whole dog journal, and is about switching your dog to a home cooked or raw diet.

    the article states that if you home prepare your dog's food, each meal doesnt have to be 100% balanced. but the overall diet should be balanced over time. for the people who home prepare their dog's meals, do you try to balance each meal or rely on balancing the diet over time? does this statement even coincide with the research you did on the subject before switching your dog to a home prepared meal?

    thanks.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I guesss I like to balance my dog's meals all at once. I do the strombeck book recipes and then quadruple the batch since I have 3 dogs. That usually makes enough for 4 days. Recently also started using sojo's mix as well.

    I vary the meats (turkey, beef, eggs, chicken, fish), veggies (I use either fresh or frozen and vary these) and carbs (rice, sweet and white potato, oats, millet, etc).  Then occasionally they get dollups of yogurt, treats of carrot sticks, apple or banana, and they will just about do backflips for melon!

    I just had bloodwork run on one of my dogs and the vet said it looked fantastic.  I got a copy and it looked wonderful.  
    Anyway, do as much reading as possible and you'll find a groove that works for you and your dog(s)
    • Gold Top Dog
       I have several of Monica Segal's booklets, including cooked diet recipes. There are recipes for different weight classes, each one having several ingredients and designed to last a week. She allows the choice of combining all the ingredients and dividing it into 7 equal portions, or feeding some of the ingredients each day for variety, which gives the dog a balanced diet over a week's time. Unfortunately, Jessie's allergic to some of the ingredients in her weight class and substitutions aren't allowed so I can't use the recipes. I'm thinking about a consultation for a recipe designed for her, but can't afford it right now.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I have four dogs and I mostly feed raw, occasionally some kibble and once in a great while canned. I believe in variety and rotating. I don't believe that you can create one meal that provides everything your dog needs..or that, that one meal would provide everything the second dog needs. It seems more likely in my mind to achieve balance or provide what a specific dog needs over time through variety.
    Aside from that..I would hate to eat the same meal twice a day for the rest of my life and I'm sure I would become lacking in some nutritional needs by doing so.
    • Bronze
    I have been homecooking for my dog for the past 3 years, and I do follow the "balance over time" philosophy.  :)

    I make recipe batches of food which last between 4-5 days. I follow a recipe from the b-naturals.com site. So, for that period of time, she's getting the exact same ingredients. The next recipe, I'll switch ingredients (rotating protein sources, veggies, etc). For ex, I try to rotate between chicken, beef, salmon, sardines, egg (cottage cheese, yogurt, clams as just a % of the total meat portion), etc for the meat portions. For the organs portion of the recipe (I think it's like 10% of the total recipe amount), I may give some liver one week, and some kidney or gizzard, the next. If I give her any fruit treats (a tiny amount), I vary them. One day, I might give a bit of banana (potassium), another day it might be a bit of peeled apple (pectin), or a blueberry (acidifies; anti-oxidant), etc etc.  I try do put in as much variety as I can, and I try to keep the nutritional value of the food in mind.  I try not to overdo any one food type (ie, not too much blueberry, as my dog's pee seems to acidify VERY easily), etc. 

    The ONLY 1 ingredient which I make sure I have in every single recipe, is the correct amount of CALCIUM (needed to balance the recipe). But even though I'm balancing with the correct amount "in the recipe batch", once that eggshell powder is mixed in the food, there is no way to ensure she's getting the exact same amount of calcium, each and every day. But I DO know that by the end of the 4-5 day period, she has gotten the exact right amount. To me, that is "balance over time", just as with the rotating of the types of foods I feed.

    Because I home "cook", I do make sure I add in plenty of supplements, to make up for whatever I may have cooked out of the foods. In addition to the calcium I put in her food recipe, I also give her a daily mult-vitamin (as an insurance of sorts, to ensure she's getting all the needed nutrients her diet may be a bit lacking in), omega 3 fish oil cap, a pinch of kelp, some extra B vitamin complex, and a probiotic. Those are the main daily supplements I feed at least 1 x per day.  

    Sometimes I'll add in a pinch of vit C powder (helps the immune system). And sometimes I'll add in a pinch of a whole food supplement such as Nupro Yeast Free (just to cover anything she may not get in the recipes), or I'll add in a little "topper" of RAW pureed veggies (carrots, romaine lettuce, parsley, peas, etc) for minerals and live enzymes -- but I limit the raw veggies because I don't want a lot of oxalate content in her diet, so her veggies are usually just boiled & drained.  I sear her food in Canola oil, so that covers her omega 6 needs.  If I'm just stewing meat, then I'll give her a Borage Oil or Black Currant Oil cap, for the omega 6. Or, I'll add in some Flax Oil to her food (omega 3, 6, and 9). I just try to keep things as varied as I can. :) 

    When I first started homecooking, I was going crazy trying to formulate a recipe "per meal" that would meet 100% of the nutrients she needed. I gave up. I don't eat that way; I try to eat a varied diet. So, I believe my dog will thrive on this type of diet, too.  Kudos to those who are able to feed a diet that meets 100% of the daily required nutrients on a per meal basis, though. :)  But for us, balancing over time has worked.  She gets a yearly blood test drawn, just so I can keep ahead of any potential issues. So far, so good. :)

    hugs!
    Pam & Sedona


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    Note:
    The author of the Whole Dog Journal article regarding homecooking and RAW canine diets, is also the co-owner of the yahoo K9 Nutrition group. I'm sure Mary would be more than willing to explain her views to anyone with questions. It's a very wonderfully informative group.
    • Gold Top Dog
    I make massive pots at a time, and I too make sure that each pot is balanced.  I do vary the protein source, the veggies and the fruit with each pot.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Note:
    The author of the Whole Dog Journal article regarding homecooking and RAW canine diets, is also the co-owner of the yahoo K9 Nutrition group. I'm sure Mary would be more than willing to explain her views to anyone with questions. It's a very wonderfully informative group.


    thanks. i will look into the group.