question - Royal Canin vet diets

• papillon806 Posted : 3/27/2007 2:54:07 PM I would just try one or the other and see which one works best; also consider other factors like which is more easily availabe to you, and/or what you can afford if that is an issue.  But I do agree with jessies_mom on adding a little extra canned meat (whatever he is not allergic to--salmon maybe?) to increase the amount of protein your dog is getting. [] 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• Shelley75 Posted : 3/27/2007 3:02:47 PM If you feed him one of the IVD foods you could add a little cooked or canned meat to increase the protein a tad. I'm sorry that you have health problems too; that certainly adds to the burden of caring for a dog with food allergies as bad as Jake has.   Jessies Mom,   I have Cystic Fibrosis, so I'm in the hospital often or on home iv's often, I tried the cooking, but it was too much for me.  But I do make sure Jake gets lots of tastes of homecooked foods that are good for him, veggies and other foods he can tolerate.    Jessies Mom and Papillon,   What about adding the 95% venison meat from the wellness cans?  I just talked to my vet and even though Jake's allergies are not severe, she thinks it would be in his best interest to start the allergy diet and after 6 weeks slowly add new ingredients to it.  So I ordered the rabbit and potato dry and wet.  I should get it on Friday and I'll see if he likes it.  Then maybe I can add a little of the venison to that?  What do you think?  If you know of other foods that have only meat, please let me know.  The protein is 19% on both foods which I think is a little low. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• papillon806 Posted : 3/27/2007 3:05:54 PM As long as you know that he isn't allergic to venison, it should be fine.  Just make sure there aren't any other small ingredients in there that may pose a problem.   0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• jessies_mom Posted : 3/27/2007 7:13:39 PM      How about some of the EVO canned food; [linkhttp://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=inn-home]http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=inn-home[/link]; They make duck, rabbit, and venison.     Here's a link to Evangers's canned meats; [linkhttp://www.evangersdogfood.com/dog/gamemeats.html]http://www.evangersdogfood.com/dog/gamemeats.html[/link]       Those are the only ones I know that don't have other ingredients like flaxseed, although EVO does have seaweed extract. Good luck and keep us posted about Jake's progress. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• jennie_c_d Posted : 3/27/2007 7:25:05 PM I've considered the Royal Canin allergy diets, and if I couldn't make my own food any more, that's what I'd feed. Their Simple Diets are made in a dedicated factory, which means that there's very minimal risk for contamination with glutens and allergens. My dog is allergic to the EVO cans. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• janet_rose Posted : 3/28/2007 7:24:02 AM have you thought about home-cooking or raw? seriously, it's the only way to really control what your allergy dog eats, and it's so much healthier than those allergy-dog commerical foods. Shell3y75, I was going to suggest this, but then I read your health issues.  However, since you are going to try an allergy diet anyway, one thing you might try adding to the base diet is a raw meat.  A dog can actually be allergic to a cooked meat and not to that same meat raw.   Some allergy problems are related to foods not being completely digested.  Have you tried something like: Bertes Digestion Blend ? [linkhttp://b-naturals.com/product_info.php?products_id=142]http://b-naturals.com/product_info.php?products_id=142[/link] 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• jessies_mom Posted : 3/28/2007 7:34:12 AM A dog can actually be allergic to a cooked meat and not to that same meat raw.     janet; Where did you learn this; I'm not being critical, just curious. Having a dog with environmental and food allergies, I take my dog to a dermatologist and have done a lot of reading but have not seen this before. According to animal nutritionist Monica Segal it doesn't matter if a food is raw or cooked; an allergic dog will have the same reaction. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• papillon806 Posted : 3/28/2007 8:36:26 AM it doesn't matter if a food is raw or cooked; an allergic dog will have the same reaction. Yes...leaving it raw will not eliminate what the dog is allergic to, since the allergy is to the protein in the meat..... 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• glenmar Posted : 3/28/2007 9:25:40 AM I'm thinking that it CAN make a difference.  I don't recall details but I'm sure that someone here has discussed the differences between cooked and raw...... 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• jennie_c_d Posted : 3/28/2007 2:12:02 PM Cooking permanently alters the cell structure of food. It does make a difference. Of course, Emma is allergic to chicken, regardless. It depends on the dog. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login
• tzu_mom Posted : 3/28/2007 2:21:17 PM ORIGINAL: jennie_c_d Cooking permanently alters the cell structure of food. It does make a difference.   Strangely enough, cooked chicken = loose mucousy stools for Oscar---raw chicken, no problems. 0 LIKE Like Share You have posted to a forum that requires a moderator to approve posts before they are publicly available. Hey, it's way more fun when you sign up or log in Connect With Connect With Sign Up Login