I cannot believe this groomer! UPDATE

When I got Teenie, her nails were really long. I worked and worked on them, then when I had her sedated to have her teeth cleaned, I told the tech to cut them off. She did, and they've been super easy to maintain since them. I'm sure that they were a little sore, but she was on pain meds, anyways, and it's soooo bad for a dog's structure to have long nails.  

You definitely can't judge a groomer by their location. Scary thoughts.... 

Cally01

When I worked at the vet clinic for 5 Vet's I was amazed at how many times the Vets cut past the quick!!!  One vet has been in practice for over 25 years and still cuts quicks!  Of course you also have the Vet's who will purposely quick a dog while they are under to get the nails back.  I knew show breeders who used to do that cut way back almost to the pad for show purposes.

OUCH! That sounds very, very painful!!!!

I've had Milo quicked while under anesthesia for surgery. It's the best time. He has long as death nails, always has, and hates getting his nails done. It was a great opportunity to start from scratch. So he's a little sore afterwards, but not quite as sore in the nails as he was from getting the lump taken off his flank.

Paula 

sallya

It is always easier to learn to groom your dog yourself. 

Okay,

I think this is where it is important to have mentors.  Before I started showing my standard poodle in AKC, I had him evaluated by Rembrandt kennels.  They showed me his good and bad points, as a 9 month puppy.  Then I hired a handler, who worked with that kennel and set the puppy line for me.  He got his first point after a few weeks.  At one year, I was DIRECTED by that kennel owner to take him to a SHOW GROOMER.  (My friend is a pet groomer, and a darn good one, too--she scissors, and strips pets, and keeps a lot of dogs in near-show condition.  She has received many awards, but she is not a show groomer and does not pretend to be.)  The SHOW groomer set the lines on my Standard Poodle's continental, and I was told NOT to touch the hair!  The top knot needed to grow out, as did all of those angles.  When a poodle is in puppy cut, it is all about angles, but then they go into adult coat, and it all needs to be round, so that period of time in between is when they are growing out coat...that show groomer won the MA PCA with her female, mini, BTW...

I do my own trim for face, feet and tails on my other 2.  They are pets.  My handler cleans up the pattern on my show dog before shows...

This is why I have not had any problems with groomers.  I will not let a pet groomer touch my show dog.  Ever.

Karen

All show poodles have the cat claw nail cuts--beyond the quick.  It is part of what is expected.  My groomer asked me if I was ok with blood before she did this.

Karen

What is the "cat claw", or claws?  Quicking a dog's nail purposefully sounds rather in-humane, IMO.P]  I would love to apprentice under a Standard Poodle handler, eventually. Preparing dogs for show would be a real thrill for me.

You do *not* have to cut the nails beyond the quick to get them show short. It is cruel to intentionally quick every nail. It's not the end of the world if you quick a couple, but it is absolutely, positively WRONG to do it on purpose. There is a nerve in there.

I do work with show dogs. A good friend of mine is a show breeder, and she likes to have me do her dogs' nails. I use a dremel, and push them back slowly, over time. If you keep the nails up, twice a week, there is no need to hurt the dog. I keep Emma's nails show-short all the time. I haven't quicked her since I started doing them so often.  

My boy sure did react to the nail cut!  He is was still as a rock up till then.  I clip and dremmel nails at home, never bleeding...but this was a well-known show groomer, and I had no experience...She quickly stopped the blood, and it was not much, just bothered me...

Karen

I have been a groomer for 26 years.  Always go to a groomer that will ask you alot of

question.  Whats short to a custmor and short to a groomer is two different things.

I have my people explain exactly what they want and sometimes they will bring pic's.

Shaving a dog without owners permission is a NO NO!  If the dog is matted sometimes

we have no other choices but to shave, still NOT without informing owner first!

 Wow, I'm glad I have a GSD, lol!  Her grooming is just nails and a good rake!  She's got a conformation title too.

kkearney

All show poodles have the cat claw nail cuts--beyond the quick.  It is part of what is expected.  My groomer asked me if I was ok with blood before she did this.

This just sounds plain cruel   I've never quicked my dogs nails because i only take off the very tips because i am petrified of quicking them. They make that annoying tap tap tap on the floor boards when they walk,but i would rather put up with that than hurt them by cutting through their nerves!

My friend has Dobes and Chinese Cresteds. I'm starting to groom and handle the Cresteds. The first show I'll handle one of hers at is in Dec. Emma will also be at that show, getting her Rally Novice title, and hopefully the first leg to her Rally Advanced 

My dogs nails get done weekly. It doesn't take long and I can keep them relatively short, but SHOW SHORT is a whole other world. They do things to show dogs that we pet owners wouldn't dream of doing!

 My poodles nails are easily controlled doing them weekly and I can't see any reason to quick them ON PURPOSE!