running in circles

    • Bronze

    running in circles

    i don't know what's happening to my dog but she keeps running in circles in our living room non-stop. she'll stop if she wants to sleep. she doesn't play with me anymore and doesn't even recognize me anymore. what's wrong with her? please help. my vet told me maybe she's old. i had her way back in '95. she still eats her food but the running in circles really worries me.

    • Gold Top Dog

    kervez
    she doesn't play with me anymore and doesn't even recognize me anymore.

    Running zoomies doesn't worry me, but this part does.  Depending on her size and breed 12-yrs-old could be quite old.

    Vestibular disease/syndrome can make dogs go in circles.  Cholodin can help with that and with senility.

    http://community.dog.com/forums/p/66371/518392.aspx#518392

    How long has this been going on?  Some forms of vestibular disease will clear up in a couple of weeks.

    • Bronze

    it's almost two weeks already and i'm really scared. she's a lhasa apso.

    thanks janet for the reply.

    • Gold Top Dog

    Cognitive Dysfunction Syndrome could also be involved.  Anipryl (link) could help with that.

    Be sure to read the links within the link I provided in my last post.

    • Gold Top Dog

    kervez
    it's almost two weeks already and i'm really scared.

    What testing did your vet do?  Did he/she provide any meds?

    Have you considered getting a 2nd opinion?  Look here for a vet school near you:

    http://www.veterinaryschools.com/dvm-schools-colleges-programs.html

    • Bronze

    i'll try to get a 2nd opinion coz my vet didn't give any meds. she just said that my pet is old.

    • Gold Top Dog

    kervez
    she just said that my pet is old.

    With no tests at all?  I would definitely get a 2nd opinion.

    Tell the vet that she

    1. suddenly started running in circles to exhaustion (vestibular syndrome?, neurological problem?)
    2. doesn't seem to recognize you (cognitive dysfunction syndrome?)

    It seems strange to suddenly get both syndromes at the same time.

    I would want the evaluation to include

    1. thyroid testing - I would ask for a full panel done by Hemopet or MSU (Michigan State University).
    2. a comprehensive evaluation for a inner/middle ear infection or disorder (ear culture?, X-rays?)
    3. a senior panel of blood tests

    I would also get the dietary supplement Cholodin now from http://www.entirelypets.comYou don't need a prescription for that.

    Please let us know what the 2nd vet says.  Good luck!

    • Gold Top Dog

    Please go to the top of a forum page, click on "Edit Profile", and put in your location (city or area - e.g Dallas, TX or DFW, TX).  Someone may have a vet recommendation.  In fact, you might want to also post on the General Chat board and ask for a vet recommendation.

    • Gold Top Dog

    All Janet said is great -- but I'd also add that this could be a form of seizure activity.  Given that this might be outside the realm of 'typical' vet stuff, I'd suggest a holistic vet.  http://www.tcvm.com is a good referral point.  On the left they have a locator.

    *Running* in circles -- literally to the point of exhaustion ... that sounds obsessive and seizure-y.  Usually old dog vestibular they aren't running -- but just unable to walk in a straight line. 

    DEFINITELY something to worry about.  Sorry I wasn't around last night to help earlier.

    • Silver

    Please do keep us updated--this is very concerning. :(

    I also HATE it when a doctor (human or animal) says "Oh, he/she is old."  My grandmother's doctor said that one time, and when I heard about it I wanted to SMACK him.  Antiques are old, too--it just means you treat them with greater care, not less!
     

    • Gold Top Dog

    kervez, how is your lhasa apso doing?