this may seem like a silly question..

    • Gold Top Dog

    this may seem like a silly question..

       But why can't the vets do vasectomies on dogs rather than castration?
       Is it just that much easier to lop them off(God that gives me a queezy feeling saying that)or is there another reason...?Excuse my stupidity on this..lol
    • Gold Top Dog
    my vet just scoops out the sac (how's that queasiness doing).
    I don't knw if that is the exact procedure but when I had my only male cat neutered I was a bit surprised when he came home and he still looked intact. Never  having had a male pet before I phoned the vet right up "'cuse me but ahhh wasn't Zeus neutered?" (got a chuckle out of the receptionist).
    they told me they leave the empty sac.
    And I have a siamese cat foster same thing was done on.
    Do they do this with only cats I have to wonder?
    And if so I'd have to wonder why
    anyway - I pesonally prefer the look of having them lopped off rather than leaving behind empty ones
    • Gold Top Dog
    As long as the testicals are still in there he dog will still have the agressive behavores and tendecies to wonder due to the homones still being produced. If they are castrated the testicals are completly removed and all problems associated with an uncastraded male are stoped. Also with the testicals removed there is less risk of prostate cancer and the such.

    Same with female dogs, the overies are completly removed so that the dog no longer goes into heat and lessens the chances of problems associated with unspayed dogs.
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    As long as the testicals are still in there he dog will still have the agressive behavores and tendecies to wonder due to the homones still being produced.

     
    False false false false false!!!!!!
     
    Testicles produce hormones, yes, testicles can be the reason males wander (in any species....),  but to say dogs will "still have aggressive tendencies and behaviors" is completely and utterly untrue!  A farce!
     
    Usually, if a dog is aggressive, it is a behavioral issue, other times, in intact dogs, it IS because they are intact, but lopping off their nuggets WILL NOT ultimately stop the behavior!  It can make things better, but for the most part, the behavior is ingrained into the dog.
     
    With a lot of training and upkeep, the dog can be controlled, but not "cured" so to speak.  Neutering only prevents cancers and health issues of the reproductive tract.  Nothing more, nothing less.
     
    My 9 year old male (co own) has an enlarged prostate, the nly solution is to neuter him.  I told Brian that he needs to stop hoping for a "girlfriend" for Ranger, and get him neutered.  There is no sign of cancer (Thank the stars), but it is enlarged.  I told him if he really wants to use him later, have him collected, tested, and frozen, but he needs to be neutered for his health.
     
    As for the other question, yes, the empty scrotum is left.  And, for those wondering, I've seen a good few neuters and spays.  Basically, the vet opens the scrotum via scalpel or laser,  pops out the testicles (literally pops them out...it's quite amusing actually), severs the veins keeping the little niblets attached, throws said niblets in the trash (yes, the trash), ties up the veins, closes the scrotum, and voila. His nuggets have been mined.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Ok so maybe not stop the behavors but it shure does help with the behavor in a male dog. One dog I know had to be casterated because he had a soar bleeding penius from getting with too many female dogs, after he was castereated he stoped the chasing and fighting and the owner is so impresed. It was all about the hormones with that dog. Of corse it takes about 30 days for the hormones to wear off.

    My first day as a tech I had to learn how to help with surgeries and was so surprized how it was done. For dogs they are put under all the way, intubated, placed on ther back, tied down with nylon ropes (for the safty of the dog) and then cleaned and preped for surgery. The vet make a cut pops the testical out and then does his thing cuts them out and into he trash they go. Then sutures the skin back together and poof, it done! Takes about 10 minets all together and usally the dog is awake and standing within an houre after the surgery.
    • Gold Top Dog
    ok...the cancer deal i have heard before...and seems like reason enough to go all the way ...

     as a guy ,like other guys,i just feel a certain sympathy for my boys getting there wah wahs cut off..lol

     and i just cant see how a female could ever empathize  as much...lol

    thanks for the responces...
    • Gold Top Dog
    Ask a girl that's had to have a hysterectomy at a young age due to cancer, or undergone a doublemastectomyoopherectomy bi-lateral hsyterectomy about losing their "Wah wahs"
     
    It's the same thing, and believe me, they can emphasize.
     
    What people need to understand is, all you're getting rid of is the chance for testicular or prostate cancer.  It is my honest belief that if a dog's gonna get cancer, it's gonna get it no matter what you lop off.  Most likely, it is a genetic thing, and even if you remove the testicles'ovaries, they can still get bone cancer, brain cancer, cancer of the liver...
     
    So many people don't understand that altering an animal does not make it 100% safe from cancer.  It only makes it 100% safe from cancer of the reproductive system.
     
    My Strauss is an intact male, I kept him intact because I was going to show him.  ok, ear didn't stand because of busted cartilage.  No big deal, he's a great working dog.  I may still breed him for performance purposes (not before fully health checked of course).
     
    Even if I don't breed him, the chances of him getting neutered at this point are slim unless I deem it absolutely necessary (and that doesn't mean he has to have an enlarged prostate or testicular cancer first).
    • Gold Top Dog
    No intent to hijack the thread here - but Jackie, that is one gorgeous signature panel.  At first I thought it might be different dogs until I noticed all the pics showed the exact same spot on his head. [:D] He is really beautiful.

    Joyce
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    they can do vasectomies,, its a little more complicated but the main reason for castration is to cut down roaming, hyperexcitabilty and to cutdown on aggeression....
     
    but vasectomys are  not difficult but the owner has to request it knowing there wil be no psychological  gtain
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    Thanks much for the compliment on my boy Joyce!  That's him and a tender 9 months of age.  The boy is 2 now, and he is HUGE.

    You can look at this link for his newest pictures (Sorry for the fuzzies, need new digicam). [linkhttp://www.fluffyrat.net/wildfyre/StudDog.gif]http://www.fluffyrat.net/wildfyre/StudDog.gif[/link]

    and for comparison, my boy at a gangly year of age.  Note the difference in his thickness/bone/head

    [linkhttp://www.fluffyrat.net/wildfyre/YearStack.gif]http://www.fluffyrat.net/wildfyre/YearStack.gif[/link] <--omg he looked just awful at a year! LOL!

    I have to add, I find it HILARIOUS (and refreshing!) that you didn't realize all the pictures were of Mouse until you saw the spot on his head!  Most people only notice the one floppy ear!

    To be honest, I never paid much attention to that spot on his head until you mentioned it.  His defining mark has always been his busted ear *Rofl*
    • Gold Top Dog
    ORIGINAL: Xeph

    Ask a girl that's had to have a hysterectomy at a young age due to cancer, or undergone a doublemastectomyoopherectomy bi-lateral hsyterectomy about losing their "Wah wahs"

    It's the same thing, and believe me, they can emphasize.


     Yeah i know..it was a lame attempt at humor...giving dogs the emotion a guy would feel if it happened to him...or the thought of it...of course i could neither fully empathize with a woman getting a hysterectomy such as my sister in law(30 yrs old)had to have recently...

     i also realize that if your getting your dog neutered doesnt stop cancer 100%,but for those not with show quality dogs and not triing to better the breed,than neutering serves 2 purposes..



     
    • Gold Top Dog
    Asking a guy to neuter his dog is like telling him he needs to get neutered. When the vet tells some guys that their dog is now ready to be neutered they just give this weard look like everything about being a man is being taken away from their dog.

    I'll never understand the complexity of males attachment to their down unders.[&:]
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    I cant understand it either Xebby...its one of those things that just is...lol
    • Gold Top Dog
    I had Shadow neutered last December. The doctor removed his testicles, not mine. Removal of testicles also removes any future chance of testicular cancer. It's difficult to get cancer in a body part that you don't have anymore. It also prevents prostatitis and perineal rupture. Just as importantly, it eliminates future unwanted litters.
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    ORIGINAL: ron2

    I had Shadow neutered last December. The doctor removed his testicles, not mine. Removal of testicles also removes any future chance of testicular cancer. It's difficult to get cancer in a body part that you don't have anymore. It also prevents prostatitis and perineal rupture. Just as importantly, it eliminates future unwanted litters.

     
     
     
     
    Hi! I have a black lab name Lucky  and we are getting him fixed very soon, he's starting  too hump my other dog Allistar, the funny thing about it is he don't know front from back