Katrina Rescue having seizures

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    Katrina Rescue having seizures

      My wife and I have aopted a 1yo Setter Border Collie mix from the local shelter. Last Thursday (the 13th) while doing some work I heard a horrible screaming/yelping from my backyard. I went out to check on Lucky and she was laying next to my fence stiff as a board with her eyes rolled back and alot of drule coming from her mouth. At first I thought she had gotten into something poisonous so I ran inside and called my vet for help. By the time the short phone call was over and I went back outside to check on Lucky she was in the process of getting to her feet. She made her way (with a little help) back inside. It was then I realized my dog just had a seizure. Let me say I have not been that scared in a long time.
     
      After a check up and some blood work they cant find anything wrong with her. The vet said she didnt want to start Lucky on seizure meds untill we could figure out of this was just an isolated event. Well she seized again 4 days later(the 17th). The Vet has her on Phenobarbital  now. The Vet told me that the meds need a chance to build up in her system. So far she seized two more times that we are aware of. Once on the 18th and again this morning the 20th.
     
      I guess to make a long story short I was wondering if anyone here has or is dealing with canine seizures. I am from central Illinois and am lucky enough to live 45min away from the University of  Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine. My wife and I were thinking of taking Lucky there to have her checked out again by a neurologist.
     
    Dos anyone have any information or suggestions? At this point I am willing to listen to anyone if it helps Lucky put a stop to these very scary seizures.
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    I have no advice, but I'm sorry you have to go through this.  It must be very frightening.  There are a few people here that have dogs with seizures- I'm sure someone will be along shortly that can give you some real advice. 
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    ORIGINAL: luvarescue

    I have no advice, but I'm sorry you have to go through this.  It must be very frightening.  There are a few people here that have dogs with seizures- I'm sure someone will be along shortly that can give you some real advice. 

     
    I appreciate the kind words
    • Gold Top Dog
    There are quite a few people that know about dogs having seizures on this board, I hope one of them comes along with some advise for you, I'm sure they will, please keep checking. 
    Lucky for me, I have no experience with them.
    I just had to come here to tell you how sorry I am that you have to go thru this. Unfortunately I keep reading about Katrina Dogs that are having problems...what a horrible thing that they went thru. Bless you for giving her a home.  I hope you can control her seizures and enjoy your new dog!
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    mrkodi I have a friend who does seizure dog rescue -- seizures are triggered by stress, and part of learning to deal with a seizure dog is learning to 'read' when they are about to seize, and then learning to help them thru the seizure by calming them down and helping relax them.  Often you can actually help them NOT seize by calming them down.
     
    If you want to email me, I will send you Rita's number.  She's a legal secretary in Austin, TX and she has told me TO give her number out (for folks to call her after work or on weekends) -- but she's the best to teach you how to help your dog thru a seizure.  \
     
    There are things that can trigger seizures -- pine can be a biggie.  Things like Pine Sol cleaner or the dog picking up pine pitch outside from something.  Repetitive sounds can trigger them, and so can lights that flash (just like in human seizures). 
     
    Much of this is educating yourself on what to do and how to prevent as many as possible. 
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    Another thing is diet. A GARD diet is typically reccomended for seizure dogs.
    [linkhttp://www.dogtorj.com/pages/556761/index.htm]http://www.dogtorj.com/pages/556761/index.htm[/link]
    What this means, essentially, is that the dog eats NO dairy, and NO grains. The dog also does not get any soy products. It's been pretty incredibly successful, in my clustering dog, and in others.

    http://forum.dog.com/discus/messages/46/150777.html?1122325862
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    Callie, your my hero!!
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    ORIGINAL: jennie_c_d

    Another thing is diet. A GARD diet is typically reccomended for seizure dogs.
    [linkhttp://www.dogtorj.com/pages/556761/index.htm]http://www.dogtorj.com/pages/556761/index.htm[/link]
    What this means, essentially, is that the dog eats NO dairy, and NO grains. The dog also does not get any soy products. It's been pretty incredibly successful, in my clustering dog, and in others.

    [linkhttp://forum.dog.com/discus/messages/46/150777.html?1122325862]http://forum.dog.com/discus/messages/46/150777.html?1122325862[/link]


     
    That is a fantastie website. I am sure we will start her on the food ASAP. I guess it goes to show you that I have alot to learn. Untill today I have been giving Lucky her PB with cheese. I wont be doing that any longer. I really appreciate the info that everyone has given me thus far. It is such a scary situation that we have found ourselves in. I am currently trying to get over this uneasy feeling I have around Lucky most of the time now. I am nervous that she is going to fall into a seizure at any second. I guess time will be the only thing that will help me.
     
    Once again I want to thank all of you. I am still open to any information any of you have.
     
     
    • Gold Top Dog
    Maybe she isn't a BC mix, maybe there's some Australian Shepherd in there somewhere.  That breed is loaded with epilepsy.  You can get info from Aussie people at [linkhttp://www.maculated.com]www.maculated.com[/link] on their msg board.
    Sorry this happened to your dog.
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    Here is a picture of her and her new buddy his name is Soldier. Sorry about the size. BC and setter was the best they could do at the adoption center.






    • Gold Top Dog
    What cute dogs!  He looks like Gordon Setter (chest white star giveaway) and a lab maybe?
     
    Check out this woman and her dalmation's saga with seizures.  She went to BARF or raw diet and it really almost cured her, with small amounts of meds.
     
    [linkhttp://internet.cybermesa.com/~dalcrazy/]http://internet.cybermesa.com/~dalcrazy/[/link]
     
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    So Cute! [:)]
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    mrkodi -- if you will email me, truly I will put you in touch with Rita (in fact I just got off the phone with her talking about a couple of other dogs!). 
     
    The biggest hugest factor in seizures is STRESS.  So if you are freaked out by the possiblity that the dog may have a seizure, in total honesty, that *alone* could cause more seizing.  They pick up on our feelings and emotions SO fast.
     
    Learning *yourself* how to cope with seizing, and how to sit down and calm the dog 'thru' the seizure is a major step in learning. 
     
    Seizures actually have an 'aura' -- or a period of time before the seizure starts where you can often TELL that the animal knows something is wrong, and they are scared -- they will come to you for help!  AT that point, you can, in some dogs, actually avoid the seizure by calming the dog down and getting the dog to relax -- in any event you can at least minimize the seizure. 
     
    My point is that there will be warning signs of seizures and you can learn to help the dog cope.  but it's unique to each dog altho general characteristics of the pre-seizure activity will be things like frenzied behavior, "clingy" behavior, etc.  Something that warns you that the dog is feeling ill at ease or frightened.
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    Seizures actually have an 'aura' -- or a period of time before the seizure starts where you can often TELL that the animal knows something is wrong, and they are scared -- they will come to you for help! AT that point, you can, in some dogs, actually avoid the seizure by calming the dog down and getting the dog to relax -- in any event you can at least minimize the seizure.


    For Emma, it's a "look". If you watch closely, she's moving a little differently. She may trip on invisible objects, or cough once or twice. When I catch it, I give her rescue remedy, and take her to a dark room and sit quietly with her. It works, most of the time. If I miss that pre seizure time, though, I just have to comfort her through them and hope to calm her down in between.
    • Gold Top Dog
    Seizures actually have an 'aura' -- or a period of time before the seizure starts where you can often TELL that the animal knows something is wrong, and they are scared -- they will come to you for help! AT that point, you can, in some dogs, actually avoid the seizure by calming the dog down and getting the dog to relax -- in any event you can at least minimize the seizure.
    For Maggie the signs are her getting kinda scared and she will lean on me and her body gets ridgid. I found an icepack to be of help, we avoided some seizures with it for certain. [linkhttp://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/icepack.htm]http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/icepack.htm[/link] this site has lots of info on it also [linkhttp://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/site_map.htm]http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/site_map.htm[/link] For me the dogtorj site was the turningpoint. Maggie is not on meds and doing great. Good luck with your adorable pooch.