whipworms and outside

I wonder if DE would work for this?  When I lived in the deep south, home of flying roaches the size of baseballs, I used DE around the perimiter of the house, in the garage, etc and didn't have those darned things in the house....I know it works great for crawly stuff.....eliminated more than one fireant mound with it.....just not sure on worms.

How funny - I was thinking the same thing!
DE has the added benefit of not being a super nasty chemical that would kill the ducks, birds and feral cats.
Anything else you guys know of?

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Let me tell you, you are having quite some problem on your hand there. What you seem to have is a reinfestation cycle, where your dogs acquired the worm somewhere, then spread the eggs with their feces in the yard. Now, as you deworm them, they reinfect themselves with their own deposits there. Treating the lawn is not a very good road to go for a variety of reasons. The egg is quite resistant to that sort of stuff, and the only real weakness it has is heat and sunlight. As you live in VA, having your lawn cut REAL short during a real hot week in summer, will go a long way to at least reduce their numbers. Alternatively you could apply a layer of new soil or pave over the yard. [] (joking aside, there is no effective method to kill whipworm eggs in the soil) Also, you should remove all feces you can find in the yard (some eggs will have washed into the ground by now however), and you should continue to do that. The things you should do with your dogs, from my perspective, are the following: 1. fence the lawn; make sure no other dogs do enter that ground 2. de-worm your dogs 3. prevent reinfestation for the time being (the eggs can survive for up to five years [&:]) with a low-level wormer, for instance by daily administration of 'filaribits plus' (that medication is specifically made to be used daily to prevent reinfestations).

The very best option: de-worm and move to a new lawn. []

Good luck!

I agree with the last post. To make it easier for you to understand how they survive and there life cycle, here is how it breaks down...
 
Hookworms are found in coastal area or high rainfall areas in dogs, foxes, coyotes, wolves, racoons and badgers. All hookworm species have a similar life cycle....
 
Undeveloped eggs pass into the environment, develop and hatch releasing a first stage larva that undergoes a free living period (can survive outside the host). he normal way of infestation into a host is through skin penetration (this is still at the larvae stage so you won't see them) After they penetrate they enter the venous circulation heading to the LUNGS where they will develop a little longer. Then they get coughed up (which is called tracheal migration) and swallowed again...never actually coming out of the body. No one knows why they have to do this to move to the next stage but they do. Once they are swallowed again they move to the small intestine and mature to the last stage (adult). This whole process takes 4-6 weeks to complete.
 
You need to clean up every piece of poop immediately once your dog has gone as it is like a breeding ground for hookworms. Rain is also a big stimulate for them. They need a moist cool environment to start the cycle which is why they are found more in wet coastal areas. So deworm, deworm, deworm every 4-6 weeks and keep taking fecal samples to your vet to get tested until you have ridden of the problem. They are extremely resilient and hard to get rid of but talk to your vet and follow their instructions to a tee.

Hook worms are nothing but vampires!  Interceptor is suppose to control them, round, and whip worms.  And the worms any of my dogs hvae ever tested positive for is KayCee had a few tapes worms once.

Does DE really work on Fireants ?? My yard is just infested with them and everything I use just makes them move over another foot or two. We had really bad rain a few days ago and I must have over 20 new mounds. I really get nervous having the dogs in the yard w/so many mounds and I won't use any commercial fireant killer anymore in the yard because my little dog likes to dig alot for bugs and I'm afraid she'll ingest some.  I was looking online for some organic fireant killer and bug/pest killer. I found some but it's not exactly cheap.   If DE works I'll buy that instead.

Worked like a charm for me when I lived in Savannah.  I used to take great pleasure in putting DE around the mounds knowing that those little buggers would soon be running free UNDER the bridge!  Be sure you get the food grade type tho.

Great, thanks.  I think I'll order some.  Too bad DE won't kill weeds too... lol

We had really bad whips in our old yard because of the constant influx of rescues. Bleah. Eventually we had a layer of gravel put down where the dogs "went" and I washed it down with powdered detergent with fabric safe bleach (hydrodren peroxide, breaks down in sunlight). I picked up after the dogs religiously, instituted a one week isolation period for all outside rescues and scrubbed down the kennel like my life depended on it once a day during that time (wash water drained into a non-dog area of the property).

Finally my two immunosupressed dogs stopped getting whips every other month or so. I never thought of keeping them on low-level wormer but it wasn't necessary after the yard redo.

I didn't realize they had fire ants in New England. Around here they pour fuel oil and gasoline on the hills, yikes![:-][sm=banghead002.gif]

Glenda, are those roaches like wood roaches??  In the home I'm in now there is a huge tree right in front of my porch and in the summer these HUUUUGE wood roaches swarm it.  I swear they get up to 3 inches long, but usually more like 2 inches, and occasionally one will come up through the drain (*shudders*) or slip through some crack and come in the house.  They are totally and completely disgusting and I freak out everytime I have to deal with one.
 
Does DE work on them??!!!

We got those HUGE roaches down here in Texas, but haven't seen any in our house lately.  Only ever see one once in a while.  Hate those nasty things.  One time one got into our bedroom and Jerry went to step on it to kill it and it took off and threw Jerry like a bucking bronco throws a cowboy.  He never tried to step on one to kill it again.   Ha Ha.
 
We have fire ants show up from time to time, but not lately.  What we have problem with is leave cutter ants.  They stripped my hibiscus so many times, 3 of the 4 died.  Also killed one of my rose bushes.  All you can do with them is put out stuff and run them to some elses yard.  And they always come back.  Two of my nephews were in extermination and they both said you can't kill the mound like with other ants.  You can kill all the ones running around, but not the ones under ground.

I didn't realize they had fire ants in New England

 
 They don't. We have a house in Florida where we stay in the spring and the late fall / early winter.

To be honest I never stopped and asked what TYPE of roach those big guys were....the folks in the south call them palmeto bugs.....still just an oversized roach and some of the blasted things can FLY!  And yes, DE worked on them.  I honestly don't know if it killed them or just made them go elsewhere, but as long as I kept DE around the doorways and perimiter of the house, they didn't come INSIDE.